A Word Of Advice

The Matt · #1 02-26-2012, 12:55 PM

It doesn't help a person to keep reminding them what they're doing is a sin, every chance you get. Especially if said person doesn't agree that what they're doing is a sin.

KeptByTheWord · #2 02-26-2012, 01:04 PM

If you believe you are doing the right thing, and have confidence towards God that it is what God wants you to do, then you are sinning, to not do that thing that God has required of you... whatever it is.

Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

Do it unto the Lord, and don't condemn anyone else for not doing, just worry about yourself. That is all that you are required to do.

Romans 14:12 "So then everyone of us shall give account of himself to God."

Romans 14:5 "Let every man be fully pursuaded in his own mind."

Sethern · #3 02-26-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

If you believe you are doing the right thing, and have confidence towards God that it is what God wants you to do, then you are sinning, to not do that thing that God has required of you... whatever it is.

Just don't expect everyone to agree with you.

Do it unto the Lord, and don't condemn anyone else for not doing, just worry about yourself. That is all that you are required to do.

Romans 14:12 "So then everyone of us shall give account of himself to God."

Romans 14:5 "Let every man be fully pursuaded in his own mind."

What happens to those that are misguided? People who think they are doing as God had commanded of them?

KeptByTheWord · #4 02-26-2012, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sethern

What happens to those that are misguided? People who think they are doing as God had commanded of them?

The scripture stands.

Romans 14:12 "So then everyone of us shall give account of himself to God."

Romans 14:5 "Let every man be fully pursuaded in his own mind."

If one is misguided, but one's heart and mind are open to the leading of the spirit, and the five-fold ministry, no doubt if he is in error, he will be led to truth eventually...

Sethern · #5 02-26-2012, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

The scripture stands.

Romans 14:12 "So then everyone of us shall give account of himself to God."

Romans 14:5 "Let every man be fully pursuaded in his own mind."

If one is misguided, but one's heart and mind are open to the leading of the spirit, and the five-fold ministry, no doubt if he is in error, he will be led to truth eventually...

What happens to those people that leave out parts of the bible, just because they feel that it's not needed, or it causes people to not want to come into the church?

forgivenson · #6 02-26-2012, 03:40 PM

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What happens to those that are misguided? People who think they are doing as God had commanded of them?

The crusades come to mind..... Christians who owned slaves and did not think it was wrong to beat them to death. Christian KKK's come to mind.

Sethern · #7 02-26-2012, 03:52 PM

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The crusades come to mind..... Christians who owned slaves and did not think it was wrong to beat them to death. Christian KKK's come to mind.

Mhm, the KKK was actually a so called, "Christan" clan... But the fact is that they knew absolutely nothing about God, nor the Bible, they were just using that as an excuse in order to push their racist mind set and get away with it. The Crusades were somewhat the same in that, they used religion in order to get their way. However! Catholics are not Christians, they are pagans that use a Christian branch in their teachings...

RandyWayne · #8 02-26-2012, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sethern

Mhm, the KKK was actually a so called, "Christan" clan... But the fact is that they knew absolutely nothing about God, nor the Bible, they were just using that as an excuse in order to push their racist mind set and get away with it. The Crusades were somewhat the same in that, they used religion in order to get their way. However! Catholics are not Christians, they are pagans that use a Christian branch in their teachings...

Mmmmm, I can think of plenty of Catholic nuns who are FAR more Christian than many UC OP's I have run across.....

Titus2woman · #9 02-27-2012, 05:32 AM

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Catholics are not Christians, they are pagans that use a Christian branch in their teachings...

Sethern one of the most important things we can learn as humans is that we do not have to step on the faith of others to build our own. Or crush others to elevate ourselves. Especially among those who worship One Creator God and his son Jesus Christ- whatever other doctrines they hold, it is better to try to see the good and work from there to move them toward God, rather than alienating them.

One of the ways we might see good in the Catholic church is to realize that they carried the torch for Christ for the nations for centuries. We have a shared history and a debt to Rome for that. Our most ancient and treasured manuscripts for the bible live in the Vatican.

While there is no doubt that there has been corruption among the RC leadership and a huge disservice to the people by them, there are many among the ministry and the laity of the RCC who love God and are doing their best to serve Him with the light they have. Faulty leadership is also seen in many OP organizations with infallible mini-popes ruling over people and all kinds of other issues. Remember that the Apostolic Pentecostal movement has been around less than 100 years, born in modern times and has not had to deal with many of the issues that the RCC church has. I am sure that given another 1,900 the Apostolic church too will have a colorful history, a huge disaster or doctrine, and a checkered past, or at least they seem to be working on it.

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Being separated from the world is rather a good thing, when I was growing up in High School... A cesspool of drugs, sex, and disgusting people in general, it began to change me, and I know a lot of pentecostal people that would go into those types of schools and come out just as bad as the world ever got... Being separated is a very good thing if you don't want to adopt the ways of the world. Trust me, it will happen, because it happened to me even though I strictly told myself I would NOT get involved and do as they did, and I was very firm in my standings but eventually they got to me and I backslid... So, yeah... However, love and compassion. Least for my churches I have never found a single person in the entire world more giving and helpful/loving then a Apostolic family is...

Maybe a little more gratitude for being born into a faith that you see as 'the best' and a little more humility in admitting that you were willing to throw that away for something as petty as high school popularity, over a little peer pressure would be more appropriate here.

You are no longer a child and it is time to put away the childish things of blaming others. Repentance (required before receiving the HG) begins at acknowledging that you made choices and that no one had to drag you anywhere or force you to do anything. The personal responsibility plan goes far with me... and with God. Not wanting to be hard on you but blaming others and getting away with it is how sociopaths as made.

I will be praying for you this morning.

The Matt · #10 02-26-2012, 08:44 PM

Sethern, I have to say, being in a public school is a very healthy part of an apostolic's development. It teaches us to be "in the world" and at the same time gives us practice in not being "of the world." An apostolic pentecostal is worthless if he doesn't know how to interact with anyone except fellow apostolics.