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03-19-2013, 01:05 PM
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It's not amnesty...
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03-19-2013, 02:09 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
DM, He isn't talking about Amnesty. He is talking about fixing the Guest Worker program. That isn't giving Citizenship. He wants them to pay taxes if they work here, enabling them to be tracked coming and going.
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03-19-2013, 02:19 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
Wow, I guess Ben Shapiro learns his lesson after carrying water for ORomney during the last election.
He sides with Rand over Rubio and the Gang of 8.
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Paul’s plan is significantly more focused on border security than the so-called Gang of Eight plan led by Senator Marco Rubio (R-FL), an obvious contender for the 2016 nomination. It is also a step in the right direction.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...medium=twitter
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I guess I didn't have a very long break before the next news cycle hit the fan.
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03-19-2013, 02:40 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
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BTW, DM, I think Rand makes a calculated move here with the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce speech.
The Democrats don't want to solve the issue either, but they use the human factor against the Republicans. By solving it, the Republicans remove the power the Democrats have over the issue. It is called political strategy - and Rand knows how to work that, while keeping to his principles.
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03-19-2013, 02:45 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
Rand Paul squashes AP's 'wrong' report
“I didn’t use the word citizenship at all this morning,” he said. “Basically what I want to do is to expand the worker visa program, have border security and then as far as how people become citizens, there already is a process for how people become citizens.”
Paul said the “main difference is I wouldn’t have people be forced to go home.”
“You’d just get in line. But you get in the same line everyone is in,” he said.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/03/rand-paul...l-immigration/
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03-19-2013, 03:07 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
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BTW, DM, I think Rand makes a calculated move here with the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce speech.
The Democrats don't want to solve the issue either, but they use the human factor against the Republicans. By solving it, the Republicans remove the power the Democrats have over the issue. It is called political strategy - and Rand knows how to work that, while keeping to his principles.
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po, you are right about rand's plan concerning citizenship, but the fact is democrats won't agree to a plan that doesn't include citizenship. democrats have the upper hand by insisting on more rights to paint republicans in a bad light until democrats can have a working majority. either way it is lose lose for republicans. not sure how this benefits paul with hispanics since whoever his opponent will be, will be pressing for more rights than paul.
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03-19-2013, 03:14 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
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po, you are right about rand's plan concerning citizenship, but the fact is democrats won't agree to a plan that doesn't include citizenship. democrats have the upper hand by insisting on more rights to paint republicans in a bad light until democrats can have a working majority. either way it is lose lose for republicans. not sure how this benefits paul with hispanics since whoever his opponent will be, will be pressing for more rights than paul.
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It benefits Paul, because he continues to stand on his principles and knows that the majority of Hispanics want everyone to get in line and do things legally like they did. That is the major angst with Hispanics in my area, get in line like we had to do. Paul knows that many Hispanics only want to work here, hence the Visa reform, who don't necessarily want to be a citizen.
He is very calm and steady in the dialogue.
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03-19-2013, 03:17 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
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It benefits Paul, because he continues to stand on his principles and knows that the majority of Hispanics want everyone to get in line and do things legally like they did. That is the major angst with Hispanics in my area, get in line like we had to do. Paul knows that many Hispanics only want to work here, hence the Visa reform, who don't necessarily want to be a citizen.
He is very calm and steady in the dialogue.
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not asking if his plan is a good idea, but can it get approved while democrats are pressing for more rights?
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03-19-2013, 03:24 PM
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Re: Rand Paul Supports Amnesty!!!!!
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not asking if his plan is a good idea, but can it get approved while democrats are pressing for more rights?
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The main point is to get his plan fleshed out. Hang the Democrats.
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