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Old 06-19-2007, 07:19 AM
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Branhamites

Last night I was listening to Francis Swagart's radio program and they brought up the subject of Branhamites. I was wondering if anyone can tell me some info regarding William Branham, was he at one point in the UPC?
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:27 AM
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Last night I was listening to Francis Swagart's radio program and they brought up the subject of Branhamites. I was wondering if anyone can tell me some info regarding William Branham, was he at one point in the UPC?
Consapostolic1,

To my knowledge Branham was never in any organized oneness movement.

Bro. Epley is the resident expert on Branhamism. Hopefully he will answer your questions.

BTW... what part of OK are you from?

I was born in Wynnewood, raised in Lawton until 12 and then graduated from Duncan High School. My aunt and uncle have pastored in Marlow, OK for over 50 years (52 I think). My dad was from Pauls Valley and my mom is from Elmore City.
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:34 AM
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Consapostolic1,
BTW... what part of OK are you from?
I'm from Oklahoma City
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Old 06-19-2007, 07:40 AM
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I'm from Oklahoma City
Great place. I have many friends in Bro. Parker's church there. Bro. J Pound, pastor up in Northwest OKC, is a childhood friend.

Do you attend a UPC or an independent church there?
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:26 AM
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:37 AM
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I have done a fairly indepth study on WB. Where I live in AZ there are a few of them. Mostly centered out of Indiana. WB accually owened a home in Tucson and died in a car wreck.

He was an amazing idividual. He was oneness man. Infact he used to preach the trinity as a devil word. He did many healings and was really, really interesting. He did kinda shoot off course slightly. I have read and heard different stories about things he did. Things such as calling squirls into existance and different prophecies etc. But his followers look very similar to anyone in the UPC, but a strange thing they do is listen to tapes of his preaching during the services. They do not have alot of preaching by pastors, etc. I have a sermon of his that was put into a transcript. As you are reading along with what he is say all of a sudden you see ( ) and inside is written, (tape sound stops for about 2 mins, reason unknown, then it start up again with the words...)

Kinda strange, but he had an affective ministry. He was once as popular as Oral Roberts.
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Old 06-19-2007, 08:43 AM
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I have done a fairly indepth study on WB. Where I live in AZ there are a few of them. Mostly centered out of Indiana. WB accually owened a home in Tucson and died in a car wreck.

He was an amazing idividual. He was oneness man. Infact he used to preach the trinity as a devil word. He did many healings and was really, really interesting. He did kinda shoot off course slightly. I have read and heard different stories about things he did. Things such as calling squirls into existance and different prophecies etc. But his followers look very similar to anyone in the UPC, but a strange thing they do is listen to tapes of his preaching during the services. They do not have alot of preaching by pastors, etc. I have a sermon of his that was put into a transcript. As you are reading along with what he is say all of a sudden you see ( ) and inside is written, (tape sound stops for about 2 mins, reason unknown, then it start up again with the words...)


Kinda strange, but he had an affective ministry. He was once as popular as Oral Roberts.

uhm, he went a little more than "shoot off course slightly"

WB, preached that he was Elijah. He preached a doctrine that the Serpent had sex with Eve which was the forbidden fruit in the garden.

He preached that he would rise from the dead.

you may call that a slight shooting off course, I dont agree with you.
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I will not argue about his begnnings but his ending made him a false prophet that taught damnable false doctrines. He believed in individual predestination that he wove into the doctrine of the Serpent Seed where Eve committed adultery with the serpent(the missing link) and from that union was born Cain whose linage cannot be saved. He taught the evidence to recieving the HGB was to recognize the messenger and message of your day thus follow him. He was Elijah and the 7th angel of Rev. 10:7 also was a manifestation of God. Since he was a manifestation of God he was infallible. That is why the transcribed books have the coughs-studders and whatever you cannot edit God. He predicted by divine inspiration that America would be destroyed and the Millinium would be started by 1977. Many of his prophesies both personally and publicly did not come to pass(which does not bother some on here they believe in hit and miss prophecies). Tongues not essential. No he never belonged to any Oneness org. although he did belong to the Full Gospel Businessmen's Association.
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I will not argue about his begnnings but his ending made him a false prophet that taught damnable false doctrines. He believed in individual predestination that he wove into the doctrine of the Serpent Seed where Eve committed adultery with the serpent(the missing link) and from that union was born Cain whose linage cannot be saved. He taught the evidence to recieving the HGB was to recognize the messenger and message of your day thus follow him. He was Elijah and the 7th angel of Rev. 10:7 also was a manifestation of God. Since he was a manifestation of God he was infallible. That is why the transcribed books have the coughs-studders and whatever you cannot edit God. He predicted by divine inspiration that America would be destroyed and the Millinium would be started by 1977. Many of his prophesies both personally and publicly did not come to pass(which does not bother some on here they believe in hit and miss prophecies). Tongues not essential. No he never belonged to any Oneness org. although he did belong to the Full Gospel Businessmen's Association.

He was however a oneness pentecostal - correct?
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I will not argue about his begnnings but his ending made him a false prophet that taught damnable false doctrines. He believed in individual predestination that he wove into the doctrine of the Serpent Seed where Eve committed adultery with the serpent(the missing link) and from that union was born Cain whose linage cannot be saved. He taught the evidence to recieving the HGB was to recognize the messenger and message of your day thus follow him. He was Elijah and the 7th angel of Rev. 10:7 also was a manifestation of God. Since he was a manifestation of God he was infallible. That is why the transcribed books have the coughs-studders and whatever you cannot edit God. He predicted by divine inspiration that America would be destroyed and the Millinium would be started by 1977. Many of his prophesies both personally and publicly did not come to pass(which does not bother some on here they believe in hit and miss prophecies). Tongues not essential. No he never belonged to any Oneness org. although he did belong to the Full Gospel Businessmen's Association.
Elder,

I don't believe in hit or miss prophecies, any prophecy uttered that does not come from God or is not fulfilled isn't a genuine word from God.

But I do believe that people trying to be led of the spirit will on occasion mis-interpret, miss altogether God in their sincere attempt to minister what they believe is something given by the Holy Spirit.

By the way I still do believe that Branham started out right, and genuine healings and manifestations of the Holy Spirit, but deviated into false doctrine.
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