The Last Reformation Hospital Miracle

[jediwill83]

[peter83]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Hi! I wanted to post about "the last reformation" movement and ask ,how you see it?
I see the conversions videos of them with people fallows the real plan of salvation (baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Ghost) and i think is a real movement. What is your opinion?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by peter83

Hi! I wanted to post about "the last reformation" movement and ask ,how you see it?
I see the conversions videos of them with people fallows the real plan of salvation (baptized in Jesus name and receive the Holy Ghost) and i think is a real movement. What is your opinion?

I think its brought simplicity back to the gospel and empowerment to the believer.

People are healed, set free, filled and baptised in Jesus name.

I think their methods work anywhere and do not rely on a place, setting or atmosphere.

Because of what I have seen them do, I have realized thatI can do the same in a uncomplicated fashion that does not take hours and hours to do.

It has also clued me in to realizing that thereare demonic manifestations in the church that disguise themselves as true manifestations of the Spirit that are not.

I believe that some of the church has had their discernment dulled and allow these to go on instead of addressing them.

In some of the videosof people being delivered I was like,"OMG Ive seen this before!"

Its help reinforce within me those feelings where I felt some things were not right but I brushed them off because no one else seemed to notice.

[peter83]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

I think its brought simplicity back to the gospel and empowerment to the believer.

People are healed, set free, filled and baptised in Jesus name.

I think their methods work anywhere and do not rely on a place, setting or atmosphere.

Because of what I have seen them do, I have realized thatI can do the same in a uncomplicated fashion that does not take hours and hours to do.

It has also clued me in to realizing that thereare demonic manifestations in the church that disguise themselves as true manifestations of the Spirit that are not.

I believe that some of the church has had their discernment dulled and allow these to go on instead of addressing them.

In some of the videosof people being delivered I was like,"OMG Ive seen this before!"

Its help reinforce within me those feelings where I felt some things were not right but I brushed them off because no one else seemed to notice.

Yes i like the simplicity of the gospel! We people make it complicate!
Do you think he is against denominations like "get out of the church" or what?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by peter83

Yes i like the simplicity of the gospel! We people make it complicate!
Do you think he is against denominations like "get out of the church" or what?

No, you have to understand what is meant by "church " where he lives in Denmark. He is against lifeless institutions that call themselves church that are common in his country particularly the Lutheran church.

He ministers in many churches and many churches host him for kickstarting seminars.

He is there to make the believer aware of their empowerment and many times he will take people who just received the Holy Ghost and have them pray for others who need healing or deliverance. He walks them through simple steps and then gets them doing it themselves.

Hes not against "church" and he isnt trying to lure people into leaving.

The have been those that have left their church because once they began to behave as real Christians they were not accepted by their congregations so they found other like minded believers to fellowship with.

This is not a teaching that everyone will tolerate and allow.

When you begin to teach that this is what the church is supposed to do and its how the church should behave it starts to mess with alot of tradition and make people uncomfortable.

People are NOT being discipled in some places.

Their reasoning is,"Well I cant let them pray for that person to be delivered or be healed because they have never done that before."

In the real church, praying for the sick and casting out devils or praying for someone to receive the HolyGhost should be entry level skills that you are instantly qualified to do once you receive the HolyGhost but the way its treated is that its some sort of complicated master level skill set and this ministry tears that thought pattern down around its ears.

[peter83]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

No, you have to understand what is meant by "church " where he lives in Denmark. He is against lifeless institutions that call themselves church that are common in his country particularly the Lutheran church.

He ministers in many churches and many churches host him for kickstarting seminars.

He is there to make the believer aware of their empowerment and many times he will take people who just received the Holy Ghost and have them pray for others who need healing or deliverance. He walks them through simple steps and then gets them doing it themselves.

Hes not against "church" and he isnt trying to lure people into leaving.

The have been those that have left their church because once they began to behave as real Christians they were not accepted by their congregations so they found other like minded believers to fellowship with.

This is not a teaching that everyone will tolerate and allow.

When you begin to teach that this is what the church is supposed to do and its how the church should behave it starts to mess with alot of tradition and make people uncomfortable.

People are NOT being discipled in some places.

Their reasoning is,"Well I cant let them pray for that person to be delivered or be healed because they have never done that before."

In the real church, praying for the sick and casting out devils or praying for someone to receive the HolyGhost should be entry level skills that you are instantly qualified to do once you receive the HolyGhost but the way its treated is that its some sort of complicated master level skill set and this ministry tears that thought pattern down around its ears.

Ι think God is preparing his armies for the last days!
We are living in a difficult time of church history and we have to go all the way out of the religion system of this world.
I like the way those people go out and live the gospel! I did not found any of them in my country yet. I gound 2-3 "missioners" whos name was on the Last Ref. list but they was just trinitarinas who prayed with other people in the name of unity!?

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

People are NOT being discipled in some places.

Their reasoning is,"Well I cant let them pray for that person to be delivered or be healed because they have never done that before."

In the real church, praying for the sick and casting out devils or praying for someone to receive the HolyGhost should be entry level skills that you are instantly qualified to do once you receive the HolyGhost but the way its treated is that its some sort of complicated master level skill set and this ministry tears that thought pattern down around its ears.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

It has also clued me in to realizing that thereare demonic manifestations in the church that disguise themselves as true manifestations of the Spirit that are not.

I believe that some of the church has had their discernment dulled and allow these to go on instead of addressing them.

Can you elaborate?

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Can you elaborate?

loud disruptive false to tongues that manifest to sidetrack or drown out what is going on. Its not that it drives God away....its just that Ive seen people submit to and accept these manifestations that are very out of order.

Im not saying its in every church but I have seen it in some churches Ive attended.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

loud disruptive false to tongues that manifest to sidetrack or drown out what is going on. Its not that it drives God away....its just that Ive seen people submit to and accept these manifestations that are very out of order.

Im not saying its in every church but I have seen it in some churches Ive attended.

Considering 1 Corinthians chapters 12-14 and Paul's correction of abuses regarding speaking in tongues, don't you think it odd that he never said "some of this stuff going on is demonic"? Rather, people simply weren't operating properly "as a team", causing disorder. The solution wasn't casting out demons, but proper teaching.

Thoughts?