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01-20-2011, 03:57 PM
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Baron - Men's makeup?
Also, no one would have a problem with any of these on the platform?
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Some men (usually young  ) like to wear guy-liner.
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01-20-2011, 04:02 PM
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Also, no one would have a problem with any of these on the platform?
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At my church:
Earrings for men-on platform, no issue
Tattoos-who knows? most are covered by clothes, but once you have one, it's not something people will hold against a person or prevent them from leading service because of
Makeup for men-I don't ask and don't want to know
"Saggin'" or baggy pants-not an issue at my church, but it's not something that's particularly stylish in my area
Piercings-I think most look silly, but small nose piercings are not completely uncommon at my church or community, and not looked down on
Lip rings--they ruin people's teeth
Nose rings-see above--bull rings are out though, just by opinion, not standard.
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01-20-2011, 05:31 PM
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Cross-examine it!
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Baron - Men's makeup?
Also, no one would have a problem with any of these on the platform?
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Yea some do. Some of the teenage boys are into the eyeliner stuff and some even paint their nails. Weird to me but whatever.
I have no problem with that.
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01-20-2011, 04:04 PM
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
We have all of these in our church, also, except for the men's makeup.
However, as people grow and progress, you see these "disappear", except for the tattoos!
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01-20-2011, 04:09 PM
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
We have all of these in our church, also, except for the men's makeup.
However, as people grow and progress, you see these "disappear", except for the tattoos!
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You're fishing ... you sought to defend the no pants on women ... then gave a laundry list ... to try to fit what sticks.
Men wear makeup if they are going on TV ... or covering a zit.
Your paradigm is inconsistent ... the OT Church ... yes, church had body piercings. Yet, this is not your litmus test.
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01-20-2011, 04:32 PM
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Originally Posted by DAII
You're fishing ... you sought to defend the no pants on women ... then gave a laundry list ... to try to fit what sticks.
Men wear makeup if they are going on TV ... or covering a zit.
Your paradigm is inconsistent ... the OT Church ... yes, church had body piercings. Yet, this is not your litmus test.
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Sorry, DA - I feel no need to defend what I believe. I have too much experience in my own family at watching others change and then losing the next generation. On the flip side, I have also seen some OP churches lose the next generation, because they would not change.
I believe there is a balance, but that balance may differ from church to church. And I am ok with that.
My reason for posting was just to find out what people were comfortable with and if they considered any of these "sin".
I find it amazing and somewhat disturbing that many people on this forum do not see issues with things that many people in the regular "church world", do have issues with.
I read a book sometime back called "Intoxicated with Babylon". This was not written by an apostolic, but contains many of the precepts that you would find in an "OP" church.
In light of what I have learned here, I would say that "all things are lawful, but all things are not expedient".
Next thread, please!
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01-20-2011, 06:16 PM
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mary
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
I find it amazing and somewhat disturbing that many people on this forum do not see issues with things that many people in the regular "church world", do have issues with.
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I don't attend an OP. The church I attend is Wesleyan. My former OP wouldn't accept:
makeup (even to cover blemishes) for men or women
slits
pants on women
cut hair on women (not trimmed or permed or anything, either)
hair accessories that didn't match the hair
sleeves above the elbows
any sort of piercings on men or women
tattoos would have been well hidden under clothes, but otherwise were a testimony of God's deliverance
flies or hip pockets on women's skirts
animal prints
sequins or bead work on clothes or accessories
gold buttons, gold buckles on shoes, or gold eyeglass frames
women's watches that had metal bands
cell phones in church or for teens
internet
video--including YouTube
They also frowned on women saying anything in church, unmarried women, women wearing tennis shoes, and women wearing any clothing that might let people imagine what was under the clothes--not something particularly easy for all women to disguise.
All these among other things.
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What we make of the Bible will never be as great a thing as what the Bible will - if we let it - make of us.~Rich Mullins
I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use.~Galileo Galilei
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01-20-2011, 04:11 PM
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
Does this not imply that the vast majority of women are bi-sexual or will go bi-sexual?
Courious as to what the saved women of this forum who wear pants think.
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01-20-2011, 07:26 PM
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Love God, Love Your Neighbor
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
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Originally Posted by Aquila
Does this not imply that the vast majority of women are bi-sexual or will go bi-sexual?
Courious as to what the saved women of this forum who wear pants think.
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That the idea is nuts?
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01-20-2011, 11:33 PM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Ensey Strikes : Women who wear pants may go bi
I hear tell dat in some churches in West Virginia des wemen folk be accused of tri-sexualality
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