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01-27-2011, 11:21 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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So the entire constituency of the UPC ministers under the age of 35 in now in the 300s and dropping?
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less than 5% ...
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01-27-2011, 11:22 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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01-27-2011, 11:25 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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04-04-2011, 08:28 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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So the entire constituency of the UPC ministers under the age of 35 in now in the 300s and dropping?
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less than 5% ...
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Where did you get these figures?
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03-26-2011, 10:34 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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Originally Posted by Justin
According to some of the comments on a Mark Johnston youtube video, He's been out of the UPC for a few months:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yt2bAW4ZwLw
"He is not UPCI anymore....he has totally went off the deep end and has no doctrinal stance based on his website.....
Drew2Cute 3 months ago"
"..is he still with UPCI..? I'm asking as I'm unable to locate him in the UPCI Church Locator.
YoMamaWearzArmyBootz 4 months ago |
I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-26-2011, 11:48 AM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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I hear great things about MJ but if this video clip is his usual speaking style I would last about 5 minutes in a service with him preaching. What is it with the screaming? Why do preachers think they have to do that to be powerful and effective or "annointed"? Arghhhh!!!!!
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!! 
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars.
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03-26-2011, 12:02 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars. |
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03-26-2011, 12:04 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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03-26-2011, 01:02 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars. |
They might just think you'd drank your 5 hour energy that morning. 
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03-26-2011, 06:29 PM
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Re: Mark Johnston Drops from UPCI
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How thankful I am that I was delivered from doing this!!
One of the funniest things to do would be to stand up in front of our church and preach like this. They would look at me as if I were from Mars. |
I think 99.9% of people in general would look at you that way if you did that!
Perhaps being untethered from the Mothership will help MJ understand his preaching doesn't have to be performance based or done for response. Results is much better than response!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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