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01-27-2011, 04:38 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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Originally Posted by *aquietplace*
the rambos were for a while. Until she cut her hair and stuff. So i guess it's okay to sing the songs she wrote pre-haircut. Someone will need to find a timeline of the songs she wrote, and pinpoint when she cut her hair and we'll be good to go.
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roflmbo!!!!
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01-27-2011, 04:49 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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If so then use their material. (By the way this is not an endorsement of a lesser salvation)
But if the Goodman's didn't experience your view of Salvation, then please stop using their music.
Just something that drives me crazy.
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IMHO this is flawed logic. The scriptures teach us "let everything that has breath, praise ye the Lord." So.......if someone writes a song of praise or thanksgiving to God (which does not mean that they are/are not saved) and that song speaks to my heart or puts words to my hearts feelings, and subsequently I worship God via/because of the song, the author's salvational status is of little consequence.
The same thing relates to gleaning material from someone that helps me to communicate the Word of God to those I am preaching to. To follow your logic to its conclusion would mean that if I read/hear/see a story. principle, or life lesson that is not authored by a saved person I can't use it or even acknowledge its veracity because a "sinner" wrote it, said it, or experienced it.
To put it plainly, I gather material from many different genres whether it be news sources, biographies, or even fictional stories that may present a truth or principle etc and whether or not the author was/is saved does not matter.
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01-28-2011, 09:16 AM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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IMHO this is flawed logic. The scriptures teach us "let everything that has breath, praise ye the Lord." So.......if someone writes a song of praise or thanksgiving to God (which does not mean that they are/are not saved) and that song speaks to my heart or puts words to my hearts feelings, and subsequently I worship God via/because of the song, the author's salvational status is of little consequence.
The same thing relates to gleaning material from someone that helps me to communicate the Word of God to those I am preaching to. To follow your logic to its conclusion would mean that if I read/hear/see a story. principle, or life lesson that is not authored by a saved person I can't use it or even acknowledge its veracity because a "sinner" wrote it, said it, or experienced it.
To put it plainly, I gather material from many different genres whether it be news sources, biographies, or even fictional stories that may present a truth or principle etc and whether or not the author was/is saved does not matter.
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BUMP for Keith
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01-27-2011, 07:22 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
There was an older minister in the town where I grew up who loved the Rambo's music. When Dottie cut her hair and "painted up" he still loved their music, but couldn't stand to look at them in that condition. So he would buy their albums every time a new one came out, but before he carried it into the house he'd take it out to the garage and spray paint the album cover...lol. Then I guess he could listen to them and be blessed, cause he couldn't see how lost they were!
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01-27-2011, 07:27 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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There was an older minister in the town where I grew up who loved the Rambo's music. When Dottie cut her hair and "painted up" he still loved their music, but couldn't stand to look at them in that condition. So he would buy their albums every time a new one came out, but before he carried it into the house he'd take it out to the garage and spray paint the album cover...lol. Then I guess he could listen to them and be blessed, cause he couldn't see how lost they were!
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That's crazy!
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01-27-2011, 07:37 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
Well, for starters, were the males all circumcised?
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
"The Happy Goodmans were born in a red-hot Pentecostal holiness camp meeting in Kentucky, and came out of the meeting with fire in their souls and took it to the stage."
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01-27-2011, 11:02 PM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
The UPCI songbook I'm looking at right now has many songs written/composed by
those who would not be acceptable to the elite.
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01-28-2011, 03:55 AM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
"Therefore I want you to understand that no one speaking under the power and influence of the [Holy] Spirit of God can [ever] say, Jesus be cursed! And no one can [really] say, Jesus is [my] Lord, except by and under the power and influence of the Holy Spirit." { 1Corinthians 12:3 AMP}
I think before we start sending people to Hell over not following a three step plan that only came to prominence in the early 1900s, we should check scripture and see if their fruit is in accord. Too many want to send trinitarians to Hell, yet most Oneness have just as much confusion as they do in so many areas. Before we try to snatch the keys from the hands of Christ to open the pit, how about we take the lead from scripture, examine ourselves to see if we are truly in the faith.
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01-28-2011, 04:38 AM
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Re: Were the Happy Goodman's Saved?
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Originally Posted by Pastor Keith
If so then use their material. (By the way this is not an endorsement of a lesser salvation)
But if the Goodman's didn't experience your view of Salvation, then please stop using their music.
Just something that drives me crazy.
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It's just music, using someone elses lyrics means just that. Nothing more.
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