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03-02-2011, 11:03 AM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
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I hope they never come to Hooterville.
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03-02-2011, 11:17 AM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
Glad you got a good laugh out of it. If they try to come here, Fred Ziffel will get his shotgun out, or we'll drown them in the water tower. They had better stay away from Pixlie and Crabwell Corners too.
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03-02-2011, 10:29 AM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
It is obviously a free speech issue.
Just because you disagree with someone does not give you the right to silence them.
So long as they follow local ordinances regarding assembly etc...
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03-02-2011, 02:32 PM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
I would like to tell you that I am so spirutual I only have love for the Westboro Baptist church folks. However what I have is probably a little of both rightous and unrightous indignation.
Those folks have done more harm to true Christians than just about anything the devil directly does. I say directly because I have not doubt Satan is using this group for his purposes.
There are only a few groups of people that I would not feel badly if some horrific accident happened to them that wiped them off the face of the earth. This is one of those groups. Certainly my first wish is that they repent and become true Christians. In lieu of that I would be just fine if their van ran off a 1,000 foot cliff and they could see the Jesus they profess to serve as quickly as possible and learn the error of their ways. These people are evil incarnate.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-02-2011, 02:58 PM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
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I would like to tell you that I am so spirutual I only have love for the Westboro Baptist church folks. However what I have is probably a little of both rightous and unrightous indignation.
Those folks have done more harm to true Christians than just about anything the devil directly does. I say directly because I have not doubt Satan is using this group for his purposes.
There are only a few groups of people that I would not feel badly if some horrific accident happened to them that wiped them off the face of the earth. This is one of those groups. Certainly my first wish is that they repent and become true Christians. In lieu of that I would be just fine if their van ran off a 1,000 foot cliff and they could see the Jesus they profess to serve as quickly as possible and learn the error of their ways. These people are evil incarnate.
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Galatians 5:19 KJV - Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
Galatians 5:20 KJV - Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
Galatians 5:21 KJV - Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told Unregistered in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Galatians 5:22 KJV - But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
Galatians 5:23 KJV - Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
Galatians 5:24 KJV - And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
Galatians 5:25 KJV - If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
Galatians 5:26 KJV - Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
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I think they fall into the works of the flesh column much easier than the fruit of the spirit column.
They which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
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03-02-2011, 10:54 PM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
What is really wild about Westboro is that the pastor is a very educated man. He is a lawyer who was pretty famous advocating for civil rights decades ago. People who worked with him then are shocked at what he is doing now.
While much of the"church" is members of his own family he also has had close family members denounce him. If I remember correctly I believe at least one grown daughter or son.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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03-03-2011, 11:56 AM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
Private business - yes
In reality, though you cannot do this.
Most states are at-will states, but you cannot fire someone on the basis of race, sex, age, religion, or other protected classes.
Now you can fire them, but then you must prove that it was not due to any protected class/reason.
Otherwise, get ready for an EEOC charge and a lawsuit.
Public sector - we have moved beyond the "spoils" system, so this needs handled differently than the private sector.
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03-03-2011, 06:50 PM
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Re: Westboro Funeral Pickets Are Protected Speech
I wish they would go far, far, far, far, FAR away and HUSH..... but the Supreme court made the correct decision.
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