Is Yeshua Your Father?

[SRM]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If you cannot answer YES please read the following:

28 And now, little children, ABIDE IN HIM; that, when HE shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before HIM at HIS coming.
29 If ye know that HE is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is BORN OF HIM. 1 John 2:28-29

The subject of these two verses is YESHUA is it not?

The Christian is BORN OF YESHUA. He is the Father of the Christian! I rejoice to call Yeshua "FATHER".

Is Yeshua YOUR Father?

Now that is what baseball teams do during the 7th inning

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by SRM

Now that is what baseball teams do during the 7th inning

Ok now your understanding of what John meant?

[Michael The Disciple]

17 Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, and cometh down from the Father of lights, with whom is no variableness, neither shadow of turning. James 1:17

Who is The Father Of Lights?

44 Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.
45 And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.
46 I am come a LIGHT into the world, that whosoever believeth on ME should not abide in darkness. John 12:44-46

Yeshua is THE LIGHT.

35 Then Jesus said unto them, Yet a little while is the light with you. Walk while ye have the light, lest darkness come upon you: for he that walketh in darkness knoweth not whither he goeth.
36 While ye have light, believe in the light, that YE MAY BE the CHILDREN OF LIGHT. These things spake Jesus, and departed, and did hide himself from them. John 12:35-36

His disciples are the CHILDREN OF LIGHT.8 For ye were sometimes darkness, but now are ye light in the Lord: walk as CHILDREN OF LIGHT: Eph. 5:8

John says in 1 John 2:28-28 WE ARE BORN OF HIM!

Yeshua is THE FATHER OF LIGHTS. If you are LIGHT in the Lord then he is YOUR FATHER. Be encouraged that he is being MAGNIFIED. Be encouraged he is revealing TO YOU that he is YOUR FATHER!

[Michael The Disciple]

Using the name in your language is what is proper.
In English Jesus is the proper name.
In Spanish, Jesús is the proper name.

Most "Apostolics" would say you must use Iésous (Jesus) because that is the only recordings by the Apostles that was used, for they wrote in Greek not Hebrew.

That is my humble opinion.

So it would be improper for me to call the Messiah by the name his Mother and the Apostles called him? I dont see that in the Bible.

As to the Apostles writing in Greek that is pure speculation.

Any comments ON THE TOPIC?

[NorCal]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

So it would be improper for me to call the Messiah by the name his Mother and the Apostles called him? I dont see that in the Bible.

As to the Apostles writing in Greek that is pure speculation.

Any comments ON THE TOPIC?

Unless you can find Hebraic copies. The point was: There are so many different ways in Hebrew to say "Jehovah has become Salvation" that you can not be 100% it was Yeshua. However, it is written in Greek, that we can attest to.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If you cannot answer YES please read the following:

28 And now, little children, ABIDE IN HIM; that, when HE shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before HIM at HIS coming.
29 If ye know that HE is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is BORN OF HIM. 1 John 2:28-29

The subject of these two verses is YESHUA is it not?

The Christian is BORN OF YESHUA. He is the Father of the Christian! I rejoice to call Yeshua "FATHER".

Is Yeshua YOUR Father?

Indeed. Owning to the undeniable fact that Christ, the Son of God, is divine (YHWH) he does fill a parental role to the creation, and the new life he creates within through the cross he bore.

Still yet, Yeshua never claimed to be the Father of the Son. The scripture reveals him as praying to and relating with His Father in Heaven. This is not simply flesh praying to Spirit, but rather God in Flesh - the Son of God praying to his Father in Heaven.

"Blessed [be] God, even the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of mercies, and the God of all comfort;..."

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

If you cannot answer YES please read the following:

28 And now, little children, ABIDE IN HIM; that, when HE shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before HIM at HIS coming.
29 If ye know that HE is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is BORN OF HIM. 1 John 2:28-29

The subject of these two verses is YESHUA is it not?

The Christian is BORN OF YESHUA. He is the Father of the Christian! I rejoice to call Yeshua "FATHER".

Is Yeshua YOUR Father?

Jesus' Father is my Father.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Jesus' Father is my Father.

Can you explain what John meant when he said we are BORN OF HIM? Or did you actually read what I wrote?

[seekerman]

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

Can you explain what John meant when he said we are BORN OF HIM? Or did you actually read what I wrote?

I simply take the word of Jesus Himself who specifically identified His Father and God as the same as Mary's Father and God.

So, my Father is the same as Jesus' and Mary's Father. Not complicated really.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by seekerman

I simply take the word of Jesus Himself who specifically identified His Father and God as the same as Mary's Father and God.

So, my Father is the same as Jesus' and Mary's Father. Not complicated really.

Ok lets look at what the Apostle says:

2:28 And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming. 1 John 2:28

Can you identify WHO John is referring to in this verse?

On to the next verse.

2:29 If ye know that he is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of him. 1 John 2:29

Do you believe verse 29 is talking about the same him or he as verse 28? If not why?

Isnt Jesus the one we are to abide in? Isnt Jesus the one coming? Does not THE NEXT VERSE say everyone that does righteousness is BORN OF HIM?

Does not all the language indicate the subject in the two verses are the same?

Does not this prove that JESUS is our Father? Or at least the Father of those who "do righteousness"?