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07-30-2011, 08:26 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
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Originally Posted by Margies3
I don't know. I'm not usually a doubter. I truly do believe in miracles - how could I do anything else! But something about this one has just not felt right even from the first I heard of it. I'm sorry. There are too many variables left unanswered. It sounds far too "staged" to me. Just call me Thomas this time.
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No not "staged" I don't believe that at all. It just does not sound like he "died for ten or fifteen minutes" to me.
I have yet to hear whether CPR was administered from the time he quit breathing and no pulse was found, until the time he regained consciousness.
If there really were real medical professionals there (and I am not doubting it) they would have checked for open airway, breathing and circulation (pulse). This process can be done in 30 sec by someone accustomed to doing it. If breathing and circulation were not present, they would have administered full CPR for the fifteen minutes he was said to be dead. This should be easily verifiable and witnessed by everyone present. If this did not occur then it must be assumed he was breathing or had other signs of life in spite of him fainting and going unresponsive.
It's one thing to not find a pulse - I know a couple people who you can't get a pulse on when they are conscious and alert. It's quite another thing to claim someone wasn't breathing for ten or fifteen minutes.
So.... since we have a hundred visitors checking this thread out, can someone please post a video of the event?
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07-30-2011, 09:24 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
I'm like this if God does anything for anybody anywhere I'm grateful for it.
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07-30-2011, 09:28 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
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I'm like this if God does anything for anybody anywhere I'm grateful for it.
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That right there is one good position to take Scott. I am with you!
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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07-30-2011, 09:31 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
I recently preached in a Southern Baptist Church,and I tried to help those dear people.
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07-30-2011, 09:53 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
Let me also say this. Anytime a sinner repents at a denominational church, I rejoice. Anytime someone goes from a formal denominational church to a trinitarian Pentecostal church, I rejoice. Anytime someone receives the gift of the Holy Ghost in a trinitarian Pentecostal church, I rejoice. Anytime somone takes a step in the right direction, there is a cause for rejoicing. Are they saved without Acts 2:38 experience?... NO! But my God is not limited to where he can reach someone. However God has to reach into someone's life to lead them into truth, I believe He will.
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07-31-2011, 02:29 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
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Let me also say this. Anytime a sinner repents at a denominational church, I rejoice. Anytime someone goes from a formal denominational church to a trinitarian Pentecostal church, I rejoice. Anytime someone receives the gift of the Holy Ghost in a trinitarian Pentecostal church, I rejoice. Anytime somone takes a step in the right direction, there is a cause for rejoicing. Are they saved without Acts 2:38 experience?... NO! But my God is not limited to where he can reach someone. However God has to reach into someone's life to lead them into truth, I believe He will.
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So, the folks who have repented and invited Jesus Christ into their lives
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the folks who have been baptized in the Holy Spirit
are not saved?
Does this mean they are on their way to the Lake of Fire?
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07-31-2011, 02:49 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
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So, the folks who have repented and invited Jesus Christ into their lives
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the folks who have been baptized in the Holy Spirit
are not saved?
Does this mean they are on their way to the Lake of Fire?
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according to some miss informed people yes,. those who have recieved the promise of God are not saved.
sad isnt it.
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07-30-2011, 09:56 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
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07-30-2011, 09:57 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
They haven't put the archived services up,but when they do you can see them at the link above.
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07-30-2011, 10:09 PM
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Re: Miracle at Impact Conference
Sigh...sooo according to DeltaGuitar now the Baptists have real miracles and the UPC is making them up? Good grief
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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