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View Poll Results: Are you Oneness Pentecostal??
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I don't call myself OP, but I am Oneness and Pentecostal
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09-08-2011, 10:37 AM
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by Sabby
Delta,
Interesting journey, isn't it?
I believe in one God, always have. I went through a period of time that I actually asked the Holy Spirit to forgive me for neglecting to evoke Him in prayer. Then I realized that He is God. Same happened concerning my prayers to the Father, when I began to pray more evoking Christ and calling on His name; I felt guilty not praying to the Father as much as to His Son Jesus, since the Father, is obviously God.
There is a name for God that can be applied to both the Father and the Holy Spirit. Jehoshuah, Yeshua, Jehovah-savior. In our vernacular it's just "Jesus". I have never felt badly about praying to Jesus Christ, and when I use the name of Jesus in prayer, I can mentally differentiate the attribute, whether His loving Fathering of me, His abiding empowerment, or His forgiving attitude.
The problem I have in labeling God as Trinity and/or Oneness is it categorizes Him into preconceived notions (or boxes) of who He is. We wind up having to "unpack" those ideas and 'splainin' what we mean by the definition of the word, trinity or oneness. I feel they are semantic differences.
Since I believe that the NAME of Jesus evokes all three, I guess you could say I'm oneness, but according to my understanding of scripture, and not a pidgeon-holed one-size-fits-all from the manual UPC definition.
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really awesome way to put it
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09-08-2011, 11:00 AM
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Re: Are you an OP?
Fortunately, Jesus instructed us how to pray.
Pray to the Father in heaven in Jesus Name.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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09-09-2011, 09:05 AM
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Location: Portage la Prairie, MB CANADA
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by Hoovie
Fortunately, Jesus instructed us how to pray.
Pray to the Father in heaven in Jesus Name.
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Amen. I am oneness. And Pentecostal, too. I find Many oneness folks skip over some verses and miss their points, though. You listed one of them. Another is where Jesus said we would not pray to him after he departed, but to the Father ourselves because the Father loves us.
John 16:23-24
23 And in that day ye shall ask me nothing. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whatsoever ye shall ask the Father in my name, he will give it you. 24 Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.
John 16:26-27
26 At that day ye shall ask in my name: and I say not unto you, that I will pray the Father for you: 27 For the Father himself loveth you, because ye have loved me, and have believed that I came out from God.
And how many oneness people would use these actual words in their prayer, describing Jesus?
Acts 4:30
30 By stretching forth thine hand to heal; and that signs and wonders may be done by the name of thy holy child Jesus.
It's like most oneness people usually say, "Jesus is Father, Son and Holy Ghost anyway, so it does not matter." It matters enough for Jesus to have said it, though! Many oneness people do not understand oneness.
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Last edited by mfblume; 09-09-2011 at 09:22 AM.
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09-08-2011, 11:44 AM
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uncharismatic conservative maverick
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by Amanah
what i really want to do is make a poll, seeing how many OPs vs non OPs we have on the forum, but I can't figure out how to do it
So, therefore I would like this post deleted, and for someone to tell me how to make a poll.
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09-08-2011, 11:55 AM
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by BrotherEastman
Are you OP?
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I am a Oneness Pentecostal, baptized in Jesus' name, filled with the Holy Ghost, evidenced with speaking in tongues.
I was raised Catholic.
My Mom and I were invited to a CoG when I was about 11, and God filled me with the Holy Ghost, and I spoke in tongues.
I was invited to church by a street preacher when I was 15, and was baptized in Jesus name by Pastor Joel Velie at the Pentecostal Lighthouse in Melbourne Florida.
When I was 27 I was invited to Attend Bible Truth Church in Melbourne Florida, and Pastor P.T. McClure preached on the Oneness of God and I saw it. That Church has now become Promiseland Church, and I still visit it. http://promiseland.org/about/
More often these days I attend the First Pentecostal Church of Palm Bay, Pastored by Bro David Myers http://www.fpcpalmbay.com/welcome.html
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09-21-2011, 10:52 AM
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by Amanah
When I was 27 I was invited to Attend Bible Truth Church in Melbourne Florida, and Pastor P.T. McClure preached on the Oneness of God and I saw it. That Church has now become Promiseland Church, and I still visit it. http://promiseland.org/about/
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My friends that I went to Texas Bible College also go to church there. Danny and Patti Toops. I just love them!
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09-21-2011, 11:03 AM
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Re: Are you an OP?
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My friends that I went to Texas Bible College also go to church there. Danny and Patti Toops. I just love them!
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Yes! Promiseland is having their 30th year anniversary this Sunday and I will be seeing them
ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION
http://promiseland.org/events/
Special Guest Speaker Pastor Anthony Knotts, Greensboro, NC http://theembassychurch.org/
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Are you worried about what 2026 will bring?
I think it will bring flowers. why?
because i'm planting flowers 🌹
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09-21-2011, 11:14 PM
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I am a Oneness Pentecostal, baptized in Jesus' name, filled with the Holy Ghost, evidenced with speaking in tongues.
I was raised Catholic.
My Mom and I were invited to a CoG when I was about 11, and God filled me with the Holy Ghost, and I spoke in tongues.
I was invited to church by a street preacher when I was 15, and was baptized in Jesus name by Pastor Joel Velie at the Pentecostal Lighthouse in Melbourne Florida.
When I was 27 I was invited to Attend Bible Truth Church in Melbourne Florida, and Pastor P.T. McClure preached on the Oneness of God and I saw it. That Church has now become Promiseland Church, and I still visit it. http://promiseland.org/about/
More often these days I attend the First Pentecostal Church of Palm Bay, Pastored by Bro David Myers http://www.fpcpalmbay.com/welcome.html
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I knew Bro. Velie and met the McClures when they were in Jax.
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09-08-2011, 12:58 PM
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This is still that!
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Re: Are you an OP?
I'm obviously missing something here;
what is the difference between being OP, and being Oneness and Pentecostal?
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Are you worried about what 2026 will bring?
I think it will bring flowers. why?
because i'm planting flowers 🌹
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09-08-2011, 01:32 PM
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Renewed
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Location: Arkansas
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Re: Are you an OP?
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Originally Posted by Amanah
I'm obviously missing something here;
what is the difference between being OP, and being Oneness and Pentecostal?
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You would have to ask ones definition of "OP". Around here its like asking what flavor Skittle you like.
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