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02-07-2012, 04:01 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
There are writings from the Early Church Fathers long before the time of Constantine that confirm the Churches were meeting on Sunday. Aquila has not mentioned that.
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02-07-2012, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Sabbath was specifically given to Israel as a covenant sign
Our sabbath rest is perpetual, not once a week
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We are grafted into Israel. Also note, the Sabbath was instituted at creation, and was observed in the wilderness prior to Sinai.
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02-07-2012, 05:12 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
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We are grafted into Israel. Also note, the Sabbath was instituted at creation, and was observed in the wilderness prior to Sinai.
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We are grafted in under a NEW covenant
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02-07-2012, 05:13 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
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We are grafted into Israel. Also note, the Sabbath was instituted at creation, and was observed in the wilderness prior to Sinai.
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BTW grafted into what?
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-07-2012, 04:10 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
Aquila -
does your house church meet on Saturday, or do you just make Saturday a day of rest in addition to when you meet with your house church?
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02-07-2012, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
There are writings from the Early Church Fathers long before the time of Constantine that confirm the Churches were meeting on Sunday. Aquila has not mentioned that.
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My historical references note this. The point is that the majority of Jews and Gentiles observed the Sabbath foremost. Not all observed the first day. Only heathen who tried to synch pagan Sunday with the faith.
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02-07-2012, 04:41 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
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Originally Posted by Aquila
My historical references note this. The point is that the majority of Jews and Gentiles observed the Sabbath foremost. Not all observed the first day. Only heathen who tried to synch pagan Sunday with the faith.
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So what percentage kept the Sabbath and what percentage didn"t according to your sources?
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02-07-2012, 05:14 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
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Originally Posted by Aquila
My historical references note this. The point is that the majority of Jews and Gentiles observed the Sabbath foremost. Not all observed the first day. Only heathen who tried to synch pagan Sunday with the faith.
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Please share with us this historical reference...
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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02-07-2012, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Amanah
Aquila -
does your house church meet on Saturday, or do you just make Saturday a day of rest in addition to when you meet with your house church?
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Larger gatherings on campus are on Saturday and Sunday morning. House church is on Tuesday our Wednesday, depending on which house church I decide to go to.
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02-07-2012, 06:11 PM
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Re: Rejoicing In the Sabbath:
Ha now I'm beginning to grasp "The Sabbath is important. Hello, it's a Commandment. But it does not supercede Grace, and if you debate the propriety of someone else's Day, you will die" (not be edifying). Aquila, I share your feelings here, but there is a sense in which when you win this battle, you will lose a war. I feel strongly here that we are directed to work with..."reality," and not allow any edicts by Officialdom to erect walls between believers. I think we might have a better chance bashing on Easter for a while?
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