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07-09-2012, 05:34 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Do you play a keyboard out on the west coast?
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*insert smirking emoticon here*
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"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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07-10-2012, 10:58 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by StillStanding
To fill some of you in. There's a strict traditional Apostolic Oneness church that was founded and pastored for several years (50?) who had authoritarian type control. He didn't have a board and ran everything himself, including all of the finances. When he got older, he had his daughter do all of the finances, but he remained in total control of the church until his death a few weeks ago.
When he became incapacitated, his daughter was in full control doing whatever he wished.
When he died, it left a vacuum of power which the daughter gladly took to herself! She was being paid very well for her services to the church, and she politicked for a local preacher to be pastor who had agreed that she could keep her position. She is divorced and the local preacher is single, so there are rumors that they are romantically involved. Just a rumor.
Last week, the daughter gave herself a raise of $200 per week as there is nobody in power to oppose. If she keeps her position of office manager, she would remain at the "current" salary of $50,000. Keep in mind that the church runs less than 100 people!
Well, last week she sent out certified letters to many of the families that voted against her choice as pastor, telling them that they are no longer members of the church and are not invited back! The are saints that have been loyal members for many years!
It appears that she is doing "scorched earth" to the church to keep her position. You see, all of the church property is in the former pastor's name, since he never had a church board for legal matters. If the church is dissolved, she might claim the church property as an inheritance.
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Been to this church, if it's the one I'm thinking about. Down to 100? I remember when the congregation ran 400-500.
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07-10-2012, 11:09 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Been to this church, if it's the one I'm thinking about. Down to 100? I remember when the congregation ran 400-500.
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400-500 might be a tad evangelistic. My sources who are out of that church say that at its peak it ran around 300 maybe 350. Which would mean on Easter Sunday they might have hit the low end of your estimate I guess!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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07-09-2012, 03:57 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
Good grief.
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He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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07-09-2012, 03:58 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Cindy
Good grief.
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What??? I'm just saying that IF it was who i SUSPECTED it might be, his spelling/typing had improved dramatically! I was going to congratulate him!!
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07-09-2012, 04:00 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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What??? I'm just saying that IF it was who i SUSPECTED it might be, his spelling/typing had improved dramatically! I was going to congratulate him!!
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I think she was responding to the Steinman post.
It's not always about you.
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07-09-2012, 04:00 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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What??? I'm just saying that IF it was who i SUSPECTED it might be, his spelling/typing had improved dramatically! I was going to congratulate him!!
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Not at you, about the whole situation.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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07-09-2012, 04:04 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
I gotta remember that.
'It's not always about me. It's not always about me. It's not always about me.'
Ahh... serenity!
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07-09-2012, 05:56 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
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Originally Posted by Cindy
Good grief.
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07-09-2012, 05:54 PM
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Re: A Wrecked Church!
StillStanding, check your PM's please!
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
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