What the World Sees as Apostolic

Originally Posted by Sheltiedad

I have to admit, my whole life when I have tried to explain the relatively obscure religion that I was raised in, I do not see a glimmer of recognition until I say, "you know, the one where the women only wear dresses, don't cut their hair, and don't wear make-up or jewelry"... at that time they usually go, "Oh, now I know the one you are talking about, I think one of those ladies works down the hall from me"...

If they HAVE heard of Pentecostals, they think you are Assembly of God.

I'm sure this means something but I'm not sure what... (actually I am but can't decide which path to take. lol)... I'm sure that those who only hang out with other Pentecostals will believe I am lying or be shocked to know that the majority of people do not even know what a Pentecostal is, let alone a Oneness Pentecostal.

Agree with you, the definition Apostolic and Pentecostals cover a whole range of groups. But if you say holiness standard ones, they'll say ok there the ones who don't cut or wear makeup right??? Never anything about one God or Jesus name, it's always dress.






:sshhh

[tv1a]

That my friend is the heart of the matter.

Originally Posted by CupCake

Agree with you, the definition Apostolic and Pentecostals cover a whole range of groups. But if you say holiness standard ones, they'll say ok there the ones who don't cut or wear makeup right??? Never anything about one God or Jesus name, it's always dress.






:sshhh

Originally Posted by tv1a

That my friend is the heart of the matter.

Yep, it's all about the outward ~

[tv1a]

Aren't we a bit jaded? lol

Originally Posted by CupCake

Yep, it's all about the outward ~

[FRINGE_NUTTER]

I asked a person I became acquainted with about what he thought of Oneness Pentecostals in general and he said that they are mean, grouchy and don't smile, etc. etc. . Not making this up. He was in a business and said they were the hardest ones to deal with that he rather they do their business somewhere else. Is this sad or what? I'm OP, but not like that and he didn't think of me that way.

I am distressed to think that anyone would immediately think of how a person looked outwardly when their attention is called to the people of God...the Apostolic faith.

Jesus did not tell us to let the world see how long your dress is or how naked is your ring finger. He did not tell to let the world see the women's long hair or even truly Godly modesty, though it is integral to being a christian.

The thing that Jesus wanted the world to see in us is a light as a city set upon a hill by our GOOD WORKS.

Let your light shine before men that they might see you GOOD WORKS and glorify your father which is in heaven. It is a life of WORKS moved by the heat of love and the light of the cross that will lift up Jesus giving glory to our heavenly father.

If we are so deceived by our latter day Apostolic doctrine as to think that our GOOD WORKS is our manner of adornment, we are then deceived by our own doctrine. Yet, I've lived long enough to see it.

Daily, I strive to do some GOOD WORK. That is letting my light shine though there is nothing about my outward adornment that would distinguish me from any other silver haired man in a business suit. In doing a GOOD WORK yesterday brought joy to my heart though it was not a great monumental work of reknown. It was something rather small, but quite significant. It made a difference. It was a GOOD work.

Daily we can seek to serve the Lord in our GOOD works, letting our light shine before men without trying to impress the world with our ostentatious outward adornment. Our ultra-conservative adornment very often glorifies no one except the one so adorned among others of like mind. This is "herd" or what is mass deception.

Let us reposition our emphasis upon the intent of the scriptures in giving glory to God by our good works rather than what has become Apostolic PRIDE. Daily we can do something for Jesus in very insignificant ways that may not be so earthshaking but it draws a heavenly smile anyway, as the light berfore men shines out.

I heard a Prophet of the Lord sing as he strumed his guitar and tears flowing down his face, the light shining upon him...

I wonder have I done my best for Jesus?
How many are the souls that I've lifted?
How many are the chains that I've broken too?
I wonder have I done my best for Jesus
He has done his very, very best for me

Oh my! I see the Apostolic Church (as we know it) so far adrift and seems to be drifting further and further away upon a sea of no return...without chart, compass, sail or rudder...just drifting.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

I am distressed to think that anyone would immediately think of how a person looked outwardly when their attention is called to the people of God...the Apostolic faith.

Jesus did not tell us to let the world see how long your dress is or how naked is your ring finger. He did not tell to let the world see the women's long hair or even truly Godly modesty, though it is integral to being a christian.

The thing that Jesus wanted the world to see in us is a light as a city set upon a hill by our GOOD WORKS.

Let your light shine before men that they might see you GOOD WORKS and glorify your father which is in heaven. It is a life of WORKS moved by the heat of love and the light of the cross that will lift up Jesus giving glory to our heavenly father.

If we are so deceived by our latter day Apostolic doctrine as to think that our GOOD WORKS is our manner of adornment, we are then deceived by our own doctrine. Yet, I've lived long enough to see it.

Daily, I strive to do some GOOD WORK. That is letting my light shine though there is nothing about my outward adornment that would distinguish me from any other silver haired man in a business suit. In doing a GOOD WORK yesterday brought joy to my heart though it was not a great monumental work of reknown. It was something rather small, but quite significant. It made a difference. It was a GOOD work.

Daily we can seek to serve the Lord in our GOOD works, letting our light shine before men without trying to impress the world with our ostentatious outward adornment. Our ultra-conservative adornment very often glorifies no one except the one so adorned among others of like mind. This is "herd" or what is mass deception.

Let us reposition our emphasis upon the intent of the scriptures in giving glory to God by our good works rather than what has become Apostolic PRIDE. Daily we can do something for Jesus in very insignificant ways that may not be so earthshaking but it draws a heavenly smile anyway, as the light berfore men shines out.

I heard a Prophet of the Lord sing as he strumed his guitar and tears flowing down his face, the light shining upon him...

I wonder have I done my best for Jesus?
How many are the souls that I've lifted?
How many are the chains that I've broken too?
I wonder have I done my best for Jesus
He has done his very, very best for me

Oh my! I see the Apostolic Church (as we know it) so far adrift and seems to be drifting further and further away upon a sea of no return...without chart, compass, sail or rudder...just drifting.

POST OF THE WEEK

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

POST OF THE WEEK

Originally Posted by Brother Strange
I am distressed to think that anyone would immediately think of how a person looked outwardly when their attention is called to the people of God...the Apostolic faith.

Jesus did not tell us to let the world see how long your dress is or how naked is your ring finger. He did not tell to let the world see the women's long hair or even truly Godly modesty, though it is integral to being a christian.

The thing that Jesus wanted the world to see in us is a light as a city set upon a hill by our GOOD WORKS.

Let your light shine before men that they might see you GOOD WORKS and glorify your father which is in heaven. It is a life of WORKS moved by the heat of love and the light of the cross that will lift up Jesus giving glory to our heavenly father.

If we are so deceived by our latter day Apostolic doctrine as to think that our GOOD WORKS is our manner of adornment, we are then deceived by our own doctrine. Yet, I've lived long enough to see it.

Daily, I strive to do some GOOD WORK. That is letting my light shine though there is nothing about my outward adornment that would distinguish me from any other silver haired man in a business suit. In doing a GOOD WORK yesterday brought joy to my heart though it was not a great monumental work of reknown. It was something rather small, but quite significant. It made a difference. It was a GOOD work.

Daily we can seek to serve the Lord in our GOOD works, letting our light shine before men without trying to impress the world with our ostentatious outward adornment. Our ultra-conservative adornment very often glorifies no one except the one so adorned among others of like mind. This is "herd" or what is mass deception.

Let us reposition our emphasis upon the intent of the scriptures in giving glory to God by our good works rather than what has become Apostolic PRIDE. Daily we can do something for Jesus in very insignificant ways that may not be so earthshaking but it draws a heavenly smile anyway, as the light berfore men shines out.

I heard a Prophet of the Lord sing as he strumed his guitar and tears flowing down his face, the light shining upon him...

I wonder have I done my best for Jesus?
How many are the souls that I've lifted?
How many are the chains that I've broken too?
I wonder have I done my best for Jesus
He has done his very, very best for me

Oh my! I see the Apostolic Church (as we know it) so far adrift and seems to be drifting further and further away upon a sea of no return...without chart, compass, sail or rudder...just drifting.

I agree with Bro. Dan! Awesome post Bro. Strange!

Blessings, Rhoni

[OGIA]

Originally Posted by Brother Strange

Well,

I guess I will just butt out. My statement seems to have made sense to neither Con or Lib.....

I wish everone to have a great week next week....

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

POST OF THE WEEK

Bro. Strange,

I agree with your post, but I don't see what it has to do with the thread? Someone spoke to an educated, religious woman who thought "Apostolic" was defined by outward standards and with legalism. It was also said, "She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a spirit filled believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost."

While your post has truth in it, it does not answer the problem this woman has. She might be educated and religious, but she is not born again (that I've read) and apparently no one has ever taken the time to talk with her about what she believes and why, and, even moreso, explain scripturally what "Apostolic" does mean.

I don't see it and can't assume it didn't happen, but I wonder if the originator of this thread has an Apostolic church which "operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost" to take her to? If so, was she invited?

Also, I wonder how the originator of this thread answered this educated, religious woman's definition? Did he/she attempt to define "Apostolic" by scripture, or did he/she just agree and reinforce this woman's ignorance? If the latter, then I don't know why he/she would even start this thread, seeing as he/she shirked his/her responsibility to this woman.

It's fun to come on and bash standards, but I wonder if the educated, religious woman in this thread is any closer to being born again than she was before the conversation? That's what it's all about, isn't it?

[tv1a]

OGIA,
No one can explain apostolic scripturally. It is all speculation. Rosie O'Donnell is just as apostolic as you are. Picking a few words of scriptures for a selective self serving definitions doesn't mean a thing. We know legalism breeds self-serving definitions. Can't call electronice video devices a television. Have to call it a monitor to get by the standards patrol. Can't have television because of the junk that's on it. But it's okay to have internet access.

Even if I wanted to explain what an apostolic is, there are no scriptures to define what an apostolic is. I choose to stay in the Word. People can make up their own minds.

I notice the novel approach of denying the fact your definition of apostolic is not a mainstream definition of apostolic. You're pseudo concern of whether I'm sharing my faith or not is irrelevant to the conversation.

Your post proves since you have no credible defense against the message, to attack the messager. Annas and Ciaaphas would be so proud of you.

Originally Posted by OGIA

Bro. Strange,

I agree with your post, but I don't see what it has to do with the thread? Someone spoke to an educated, religious woman who thought "Apostolic" was defined by outward standards and with legalism. It was also said, "She doesn't equate an apostolic as being a spirit filled believer who operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost."

While your post has truth in it, it does not answer the problem this woman has. She might be educated and religious, but she is not born again (that I've read) and apparently no one has ever taken the time to talk with her about what she believes and why, and, even moreso, explain scripturally what "Apostolic" does mean.

I don't see it and can't assume it didn't happen, but I wonder if the originator of this thread has an Apostolic church which "operates in the power and demonstration of the Holy Ghost" to take her to? If so, was she invited?

Also, I wonder how the originator of this thread answered this educated, religious woman's definition? Did he/she attempt to define "Apostolic" by scripture, or did he/she just agree and reinforce this woman's ignorance? If the latter, then I don't know why he/she would even start this thread, seeing as he/she shirked his/her responsibility to this woman.

It's fun to come on and bash standards, but I wonder if the educated, religious woman in this thread is any closer to being born again than she was before the conversation? That's what it's all about, isn't it?