Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns - Page 14

Monterrey · #1 10-03-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

Agreed, and many times that "son" was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has never been through nothin', thus he cannot even relate to the hurting ones in the pew.

WOW!!!

Talk about preconceived ideas.....

That is as wrong as wrong could be.

MANY?

Put "A few" in there would be more like the truth.

Growing up in a pastors home is tough.

Always on display, always be examined with a fine toothed comb...

That preachers kids even make it is a miracle with hardness like you exhibit being thrown against them.

MissBrattified · #2 10-03-2012, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

Agreed, and many times that "son" was born with a silver spoon in his mouth and has never been through nothin', thus he cannot even relate to the hurting ones in the pew.

Um. You really can't possibly know this. Growing up as a PK I experienced a lot of hurts that those in the pew can't identify with--however, most people have experienced hurt in general and we can all commiserate at that level.

Truthseeker · #3 10-03-2012, 01:50 PM

Not saying family member cant be used, but obvious when family runned.

Truthseeker · #4 10-03-2012, 02:51 PM

J/K

I believe its clear local church was runned by elderS/overseerS?

Michael Phelps · #5 10-03-2012, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

J/K

I believe its clear local church was runned by elderS/overseerS?

Ok, fair enough....but, it was still a business, wasn't it? I mean, they kept track of donations, used the finances to reach the lost, provide food for the hungry, etc.

And, I don't see anywhere in scripture where it was forbidden for them to place family members in positions of authority in the church.

That's my point. There are pastors who run the church like a personal income source, and that's wrong. No accountability creates a recipe for disaster.

However, having the church run as a business with overseers (deacons, board members, etc.) and stakeholders (tithepayers) holds pretty close to the Biblical model, as I see it.

rgcraig · #6 10-03-2012, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Ok, fair enough....but, it was still a business, wasn't it? I mean, they kept track of donations, used the finances to reach the lost, provide food for the hungry, etc.

And, I don't see anywhere in scripture where it was forbidden for them to place family members in positions of authority in the church.

That's my point. There are pastors who run the church like a personal income source, and that's wrong. No accountability creates a recipe for disaster.

However, having the church run as a business with overseers (deacons, board members, etc.) and stakeholders (tithepayers) holds pretty close to the Biblical model, as I see it.

That's where I was disagreeing. Running a church to make a profit and pass that down to your son is wrong.

Truthseeker · #7 10-03-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

Ok, fair enough....but, it was still a business, wasn't it? I mean, they kept track of donations, used the finances to reach the lost, provide food for the hungry, etc.

And, I don't see anywhere in scripture where it was forbidden for them to place family members in positions of authority in the church.

That's my point. There are pastors who run the church like a personal income source, and that's wrong. No accountability creates a recipe for disaster.

However, having the church run as a business with overseers (deacons, board members, etc.) and stakeholders (tithepayers) holds pretty close to the Biblical model, as I see it.

I dont think it was runned with mindset like today. I wasn't saying family can't be in leadership but alot of times its just plain family affair. Its just the way it is.

LooneyLucy · #8 10-03-2012, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I dont think was runned with mindset like today. I wasn't saying family can't be in leadership but alot of times its just plain family affair. Its just the way it is.

And I am not totally against it, so long as it is GOD'S will and not just mans.

Truthseeker · #9 10-03-2012, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LooneyLucy

And I am not totally against it, so long as it is GOD'S will and not just mans.

No, as long as stockholders ok with it.

I scream, you scream, we all scream for Ice Cream!

The Lemon · #10 10-03-2012, 03:16 PM

I suppose i see the similarity between business structure in terms of accountability and fiscal responsibility and the church...where I disagree is modeling a church after secular business practices. Business do provide goods and services for a price, and they exist to do one thing...make a profit.

I am not even going to get into the differences between Tithes and free will offerings, as that has been beaten to death. We should be responsible to give both to one another and to those who honor is due...that said, there is a very fine line between building Gods kingdom and building a personal kingdom using donations from hard working people to live off of, but I digress.