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10-07-2012, 06:26 AM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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I never said that. David has been referenced on this thread as someone who lost his leadership role. God didn't remove David from leadership.
I'm curious why you have a sliding scale of sins. Adultery is as bad as murder.
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You mean like a sin unto death and a sin not unto death? I think you missed my point, why are people using David to justify a minister keeping a position but ignore Saul losing his for his sins.
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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So bigger the sins the more a person should keep their position?
Point being I don't think using kings of OT as a model for if a minister today should remain in position after adultery is wise. Both kings sinned one rejected and one remained so which do we go by?
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This sounds really STUPID if anyone thinks he should be RESTORED to ministry. So he cheats with a WOMAN some think he should be RESTORED to ministry but i question those who think that, what if he cheated with a MAN? Or a MINOR of either Sex then what SAY YOU?
BTW to everyone that is going to QUESTION me being on some kind of CRUSADE against the UPCI , I am just now getting around to reading the post. I had to stop reading stuff after I posted a few things. So i am playing catch up and some of the post i feel like responding to. I see that many of you here are putting in 10's and 100's of comments throughout this whole ordeal. So today i am reading post from Day one and feeling like answering some of them. I have just as much of a right as anyone else here. My post are not spread out like everyone else, Because i am answering them now , today. SO WHAT?
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10-06-2012, 01:52 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Saul sin wasn't adultery and murder.
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Saul was the King. Pastors are not Kings
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10-06-2012, 01:50 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Why do people use David staying king to justify a minister in adultery to continue on but don't use Saul being rejected for his sins?
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It's a terrible comparison. David was king. Pastors are not kings. They are not even supposed to act like kings
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Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
- There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
- The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
- That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
- The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
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10-06-2012, 01:54 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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It's a terrible comparison. David was king. Pastors are not kings. They are not even supposed to act like kings
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You are right, Jesus Christ is our King. Would he call the pastor that is sinning a hypocrite? Would he sit him down?
The only way we are forgiven is if we repent of our sins. I think the real question should be, if that Pastor repents should he be allowed to Pastor again?
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10-06-2012, 09:10 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
Moral failures are not monopolized by any label. From Lib to con. In recent days we have seen both ends plagued by this horrid sin. I am close to a Conservative church where the pastored failed. As far as the Memphis situation I can hardly see how he would have been seen as a conservative. I am praying for the church. Both instances are so sad and so many good people are hurt. My prayers are with them all.
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10-06-2012, 09:36 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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Moral failures are not monopolized by any label. From Lib to con. In recent days we have seen both ends plagued by this horrid sin. I am close to a Conservative church where the pastored failed. As far as the Memphis situation I can hardly see how he would have been seen as a conservative. I am praying for the church. Both instances are so sad and so many good people are hurt. My prayers are with them all.
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Typical balderdash, Steve. You're such a manipulator.
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10-07-2012, 10:37 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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It's a terrible comparison. David was king. Pastors are not kings. They are not even supposed to act like kings
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05-08-2016, 04:38 PM
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Re: Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns
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It's a terrible comparison. David was king. Pastors are not kings. They are not even supposed to act like kings
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But a LOT OF them INCLUDING T.B. are living like KINGS and their FAMILIES are living like kings.
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10-06-2012, 11:09 AM
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Why do people use David staying king to justify a minister in adultery to continue on but don't use Saul being rejected for his sins?
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