Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.

All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.

Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!

Sad, but this is the reason why people go slow passed a bad car accident.

Ponder this the next time you're in heavy traffic due to a bad wreck.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.

All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.

Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!

You have no clue what you are talking about. That church and the church board loved and revered their pastor. There was no agenda to get rid of him. Everybody there was stunned and shocked at the situation.

There are details that have come out that are slightly different than the first report but only in details. The sin is still the same and perhaps even harder to understand. No details will be posted here unless they are publicly published elsewhere as formal accusations but the details don't really matter. What does is that it was a sexual moral failure / sin and accusations of misuse of church money.

From all accounts this is a strong church who are moving forward despite their shock and dismay at this failure in leadership.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent.

what makes you say that?

[Charnock]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.

All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.

Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!

I am going to try to help you since it's obvious you cannot see how truly warped your line of thinking is.

You are more upset about the opinions of anonymous internet posters than you are the fact that a conservative Apostolic preacher allegedly had affairs with multiple women for years.

Are you really going to try to use scripture to defend this man?

Ever hear of the ten commandments?

Commandment #7 is "Thou shalt not commit adultery"

We won't even mention false witness or covetousness.

So if you're going to bring out things God hates, start here. But don't bludgeon the victims of this garbage with your reams of cut and paste theology.

No wonder the world wants nothing to do with Christianity.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.

And what women would that be? If they were women who are not pentecostal, they most likely would keep that secret. If any of those women were married, perhaps they thought better than to reveal what they done. If they were pentecostal and married...I doubt that they would want to be a part of that scandal and lose their happy home.

If TB was a man who held a lot of power, I doubt that anybody would listen to the one he cheated with.

There is a man in our area who everybody knows he cheats, but his family is on the woman who tells their sordid secret like stink on a dog. They have money and influence in that little town. Those people go for the throat. His wife is a believer but he goes for other women who are not his wife and sits in the front row on Sunday hollaring Amen. Go figure.

[LongBeachCA]

Originally Posted by Hizzangel

I don't know about the rest of you, but I tend to believe that if it was years and years of affairs that women would be coming out about it and not staying silent. Who knows there may be some truth to some of the things that it is buried beneath the lies of some very angry people that were obviously at that church... But this sure sounds like a witchhunt to me.

All my point is is that I would be very careful and choose my words wisely... Because some people on this forum are walking very closely to the line of the seven things that the Scripture talks about that God hates...regardless of the truth of the matter.

Remember- no matter what happened. We are all sinners- we all fall- how can we judge who sin is worse? And if any of it is true thank God we serve a God of mercy, restoration and love!

here they are, Are you sure you are not doing one of these yourself? You are here reading and stating things you know........

1. Haughty eyes (or a proud look)

Rolling the eyes in response to something said to them,
Looking down on someone younger, different, or less intelligent
Setting themselves up as the judge of others
Thinking they are wiser than their parents and other elders
Criticizing parents and other authorities
Arguing with parents
Disobeying and openly rebelling against authorities
Ingratitude
Boasting about one’s accomplishments, status, or knowledge
Disrespect
“For God resisteth the proud, and giveth grace to the humble. Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time” (1 Peter 5:5-6).

2. A lying tongue

Not telling the truth about a wrongdoing
Withholding information that others need to have
Hypocritical words
Flattering to gain something from someone
Exaggerating the facts
Implying that something is true, or purposely leading someone to an incorrect assumption
Telling partial truths
Not honoring parents’ rules when they are absent
Not offering evidence against a wrongdoer when necessary
Committing to doing something with no real intention of following through
Making excuses
Blaming others for own sinful actions
“Lying lips are abomination to the Lord: but they that deal truly are his delight” (Proverbs 12:22).

3. Hands that shed innocent blood (Although children may not murder someone, they will exhibit anger, indifference, and other emotions that drive them to physically harm others.)

Bullying
Hitting, biting, kicking, hurting others
Striking parents
Carelessly abusing or killing animals for amusement (such as shooting little birds with a BB gun)
“He that followeth after righteousness and mercy findeth life, righteousness, and honour” (Proverbs 21:21).

4. A heart that devises wicked plans

Plotting revenge
Snubbing someone
Conspiring to deceive or hurt someone
Lying about a long series of actions in order to cover sin
“Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good” (Romans 12:21).

5. Feet that make haste to run to evil

Joining with others to do wrong when the authority is not present
Delighting in doing wrong
“Depart from evil, and do good; seek peace, and pursue it” (Psalm 34:14).


6. A false witness who breathes out lies

Falsely accusing someone of misbehavior and sin
Misrepresenting a disagreement between people
Falsely describing the actions of another person in a way that implies his guilt
Not offering evidence against someone when asked to give testimony
Covering for someone who has committed a wrongdoing
“Let not mercy and truth forsake thee: bind them about thy neck; write them upon the table of thine heart: so shalt thou find favour and good understanding in the sight of God and man” (Proverbs 3:3-5).

7. One who sows discord among brothers

Teasing
Listening to gossip and repeating gossip
Slandering, repeating truths that will harm another person’s reputation
Leading others to imagine the worst about someone
Stirring up disagreements and jealousies
Arousing suspicions against someone
Meddling in the disagreements of others
Taking sides in disagreements
Envying the success and blessing of others

[tv1a]

AFF's Deep Throat needs to turn in his christian card and pick up his media pass for the National Enquirer. Classic pentecostal sleeze.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Not when the author of the PM gives permission for it to be posted.

[AreYouReady?]

Likewise, nothing was publicly admitted for 4 years either.

Sometimes the congregation never hears that public announcement. I know I never did hear it until 15 years later, sitting at a table in a restaurant after coming upon the pastor who decided to tell us that a man of God from a UPC church told him his gift and calling was without repentance and he must preach. He never actually admitted his breech, but implicated his sin and repentance.

Some people never will actually admit it and ask forgiveness for misusing funds or for cheating.

[Amanah]

It would be naïve to think that moral failure isn’t present in every Christian sect, it’s been well documented among the ranks of: Catholics, Charismatic’s, Pentecostals, Mormons. I personally knew the priest who molested my sister, and the Pentecostal youth leader who raped his own daughter.

Jeremiah 9:1 Oh that my head were waters, and mine eyes a fountain of tears, that I might weep day and night for the slain of the daughter of my people!

2 Corinthians 10:4
For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:
(For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds)

John 8
Jesus went unto the mount of Olives.
And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them.
And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst,
They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act.
Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou?
This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not.
So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.
When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee?
She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

[Amanah]

My heart breaks and I cry as much for the offender as the one offended. There are some failures that cause us to fall in battle in such a way that we can never get back up, can never make the relationship right, will forever mourn and wail at the losses that our failures have caused.

There are somethings that we can never fix or make right, and don't you think Satan glories in the destruction of people who were/are precious to God?