Prominent Memphis Area Pastor Resigns - Page 64

H Gang · #1 10-19-2012, 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Hizzangel

His Son-in-law's most definitely did not resign voluntarily I know this for a fact...

Someone is lying. Because the very credible information I got was they voluntarily resigned. I believe they did too. It makes more sense when you think about it. The family was very tight-knit and controlled the ministry of the church. With the pastor reluctantly resigning and the SILs taking the stance that their FIL had been wronged by having his sins revealed, why would they want to stay on staff working with the board and leaders that asked for the resignation of their FIL? And it fits the MO to tell people they had been fired to play into the narrative that they are victims.

And, it is my belief, not based on anything I know, but just a gut feeling, that there will be a new church opening up in Memphis or North Mississippi some time soon with an instant congregation of 100-150 people easy.

ttpaba · #2 10-20-2012, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by H Gang

Believe me, most of details you don't ever want to know. Second, the men in the church providing leadership and the District have integrity, as well as Kilgore and Hughes. If there wasn't irrefutable evidence, there would not have been a resignation. Third, if a preacher preaches it "straight" but lives a very duplicitous life that reflects nothing of what he preaches---he doesn't preach it straight. "Straight" preaching includes practicing what you preach. Fourth, worrying about a future pastor on holiness standards should be the least of your concerns. Obsessing about holiness standards before didn't prevent tragedy from happening. Do you think strict holiness standards is going to give you a desirable pastor? You better hope the man's hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness! Fifth, you better thank God that the "select group" instrumental in, as you say, "taking TB down" were men of integrity and character and were honest enough to be used by God to bring the man's gross immorality to light. The man could still be lost in dark sin and headed for hell. Now he's been granted Gods grace to get right. And "they" didn't bring the man down. He did this to himself. He made the series of horrible choices to live a double life, preaching holiness and spiritual elitism while living like the worst of sinners. I hope you can appreciate the goodness of God in bringing this to light of truth rather than to continue the charade and the deception.

See this is the whole problem. The board, the district no one is informing the congregation of any accusations, proof or any real information. It's my understanding that Kilgore was preparing to bring TB in and allow him to talk but once the board got wind of it he and hughes were "dismissed". I've heard the board had no desire to bring the district in and wanted to just handle it themselves. I don't know this to be true or not. I don't know if the board has integrity, I don't know if there computers are "clean". I don't know that the district people are honest and their impeccable reputation really doesn't help me because I was under TB who had an impeccable reputation. I still don't know if any of it's true. If things are being handled by honest, spiritual, true men of God why wouldn't their process, accusations and proof be made congregation knowledge. Also I didn't mean to mislead anyone to think I meant "strict" standards and I don't think hard, strict standards are necessarily what I want. I'm just saying we are used to a way that is going to change. In UPCI so much is left up to the pastor so if you get one in there that preaches personal convictions as bible it's going to be tough. I don't know how to have confidence in the men in leadership because if what is being rumored is true TB blew it, if what is being rumored about the men that say TB did all this stuff but if TB didn't then they blew it. I could see how certain allegations and a petition could break a man's heart and cause him to resign thinking the church has turned on him and could feel like he's not wanted so why not just resign. The confidence is likely shattered even if there aren't facts and proof but just the "talk" with hidden agendas attached. I'm not saying this is what happened because again I don't know and have very little confidence that many do. I do know some are on every angle and are convinced they do know and form their advice, outlook and feelings according to what they think they know.
Until solid, straight, down to earth explanations are given and a substantial amount of proof of the allegations against Tb are shown, I don't see how the congregation can ever recover. I know some things aren't easy to hear but we are adults and pay tithes and support the church and hold positions and have such a vested interest in the church I think it's due us to KNOW what happened and how it was handled.

Hizzangel · #3 10-20-2012, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ttpaba

See this is the whole problem. The board, the district no one is informing the congregation of any accusations, proof or any real information. It's my understanding that Kilgore was preparing to bring TB in and allow him to talk but once the board got wind of it he and hughes were "dismissed". I've heard the board had no desire to bring the district in and wanted to just handle it themselves. I don't know this to be true or not. I don't know if the board has integrity, I don't know if there computers are "clean". I don't know that the district people are honest and their impeccable reputation really doesn't help me because I was under TB who had an impeccable reputation. I still don't know if any of it's true. If things are being handled by honest, spiritual, true men of God why wouldn't their process, accusations and proof be made congregation knowledge. Also I didn't mean to mislead anyone to think I meant "strict" standards and I don't think hard, strict standards are necessarily what I want. I'm just saying we are used to a way that is going to change. In UPCI so much is left up to the pastor so if you get one in there that preaches personal convictions as bible it's going to be tough. I don't know how to have confidence in the men in leadership because if what is being rumored is true TB blew it, if what is being rumored about the men that say TB did all this stuff but if TB didn't then they blew it. I could see how certain allegations and a petition could break a man's heart and cause him to resign thinking the church has turned on him and could feel like he's not wanted so why not just resign. The confidence is likely shattered even if there aren't facts and proof but just the "talk" with hidden agendas attached. I'm not saying this is what happened because again I don't know and have very little confidence that many do. I do know some are on every angle and are convinced they do know and form their advice, outlook and feelings according to what they think they know.
Until solid, straight, down to earth explanations are given and a substantial amount of proof of the allegations against Tb are shown, I don't see how the congregation can ever recover. I know some things aren't easy to hear but we are adults and pay tithes and support the church and hold positions and have such a vested interest in the church I think it's due us to KNOW what happened and how it was handled.

Exactly what I was told about Kilgore and Hughes from someone very close to the situation.

lovingthelord · #4 10-18-2012, 01:14 PM

Why is there so much talking going on about this issue. It's honestly NOBODY business. This forum is a form of gossip. It truly is, and I'm sorry if I seem harsh. But none of yall know the down right honest truth. Seriously. This is not the first time something bad happened to a church in the congregation. So stop judging a man. The church is hurting and this forum doesn't help it. Instead of discussing what has happened go pray about it.

LongBeachCA · #5 05-08-2016, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lovingthelord

Why is there so much talking going on about this issue. It's honestly NOBODY business. This forum is a form of gossip. It truly is, and I'm sorry if I seem harsh. But none of yall know the down right honest truth. Seriously. This is not the first time something bad happened to a church in the congregation. So stop judging a man. The church is hurting and this forum doesn't help it. Instead of discussing what has happened go pray about it.

But you are Here reading everything and commenting so you are just as guilty as the rest. IF you Reading Gossip you are being a part of the talk. it is ONE IN THE SAME. You are now apart of GOSSIP so get over it.

Evang.Benincasa · #6 05-08-2016, 08:15 PM

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But you are Here reading everything and commenting so you are just as guilty as the rest. IF you Reading Gossip and spreading it is ONE IN THE SAME. You are now apart of GOSSIP so get over it.

Read their post again, they are asking posters to stop posting about the subject.

Big difference between reading a thread, joining the gossip, and complaining about the gossip that it should stop.