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Originally Posted by Sam
The teaching that a person is justified/saved/born again at faith and repentance prior to and separate from water and Spirit baptism was the standard Apostolic/Pentecostal teaching for years. The idea that water and Spirit baptism are the new birth was a later teaching but it has become quite prominent.
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I know this is an old thread,but I am new here and this is extremely interesting to me. This is the way I believe, but I didn't know there were Apostolics that believe this. Isn't this belief rather anathema in the UPC? Are there Apostolic orgs that hold to this? I think the ACOPOC holds to this, but they also allow both oneness and trinity views.
I did not stay in the UPC because it just didn't jive with what God did in me. Never could accept the idea that one isn't saved until water baptism and they speak in tongues and that you are going to hell if you don't speak in tongues or aren't baptized. I got saved 2 years before Holy Ghost baptism, and my Baptism in the Holy Ghost was 4 years before water baptism. I mean when you really know Jesus and are on fire for Him and have the witness of the Spirit in your heart that you are a child of God and are born again, someone arguing that you are not just falls flat.
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