Thanks, CC1 for starting this thread! BTW, I'm now StillStanding, not Pianoman anymore! Ha!
First off, the guy had a bullhorn blasting five feet from us. We were walking up to the stadium in a group that was in a good mood anticipating the Titans game. He addressed the entire group as "sinners" and then keyed in on the guy with the beer. When we FINALLY were able to cross the street, he blared thru his bullhorn, " God bless you, sinner!" There was an unanimous rolling of the eyes. The guy with the beer told his buddies, "Can you believe that?"
I'm all for witnessing, but I can assured you that this type of "soul winning" did more damage than it helped. We saw three or four other people with bullhorns and signs with derogatory messages about "sinners". I'm sure that they all felt justified that they were doing the work of The Lord, but as CC1 mentioned, they were helping the devil out by making Christianity look so crass and judgmental.
PM or SS, I think it is a laughable thing that these type of people think this is a "soul-winning" method. It's not though. It's a "soul-soothing" method for them only. It make them feel good about themselves by feeling bad for others. I don't get how that mindset can possibly be a valid one, but somehow to some people it is.
If I were you or CC1 I'd have responded with, "Jesus loves you too even though you're a jerk, a judge and just plain rude." If it were me I'd have said something far worse than that.
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PM or SS, I think it is a laughable thing that these type of people think this is a "soul-winning" method. It's not though. It's a "soul-soothing" method for them only. It make them feel good about themselves by feeling bad for others. I don't get how that mindset can possibly be a valid one, but somehow to some people it is.
If I were you or CC1 I'd have responded with, "Jesus loves you too even though you're a jerk, a judge and just plain rude." If it were me I'd have said something far worse than that.
I love this advice and wish I had been quick enough on my feet to have thought of this. However I was out on a beautiful evening with a friend to enjoy a football game so I just kept on walking shaking my head in wonder at the ignorance.
I also think Ferd's advice was good in that I could have turned the tables on them and gone all UPC and demanded to know if they had been baptized in Jesus name and spoke in tongues. Then if they said now I could have loudly condemned them to hell.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
I love this advice and wish I had been quick enough on my feet to have thought of this. However I was out on a beautiful evening with a friend to enjoy a football game so I just kept on walking shaking my head in wonder at the ignorance.
I also think Ferd's advice was good in that I could have turned the tables on them and gone all UPC and demanded to know if they had been baptized in Jesus name and spoke in tongues. Then if they said now I could have loudly condemned them to hell.
You could have also loudly asked if their wives cut their hair, looked like a harlot, and/or wore MENS's apparel?
CC1, Pastor Phil Goldsboerry said yesterday at church that basically, 'Church, or a church service, isn't bad or harmful, but people can sometimes make it offensive.' That statement is so true. Church, the service, on Sunday's may not be an offensive matter on the surface, but the church, us, can make church, the service, very offensive to people, even offensive to believers.
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seriously if I had been part of that crowd and heard that, I just might have walked up to the guy and asked if he had recived the HG since he believed. then when he said waaaachuuuutalkingbout? I just might have launched into You are being disobedient. You need to get baptized right, talk in tongues!
get'em all worked up!
LOLOLOL!
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seriously if I had been part of that crowd and heard that, I just might have walked up to the guy and asked if he had recived the HG since he believed. then when he said waaaachuuuutalkingbout? I just might have launched into You are being disobedient. You need to get baptized right, talk in tongues!
get'em all worked up!
LOLOLOL!
That sounds like something I would say to him .
Christ told us to be as wise as serpents and gentile as a dove.
If he is AG he is rouge
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Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. (Romans 14:4)
Scripture is its own interpreter. Nothing can cut a diamond but a diamond. Nothing can interpret Scripture but Scripture" Thomas Watson.
Christ told us to be as wise as serpents and gentile as a dove.
If he is AG he is rouge
Our old AG church (mine for a few years and my wifes her whole life) had elements of that. But mainly they were all about legislating the when, how's, why's, and wheres of what a married couple were to do sexually. Apparently an area our fellow poster Esaias, feels needs to be addressed as well.
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34 Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast.
Isaiah 5:11
Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!
22 Woe unto them that are mighty to drink wine, and men of strength to mingle strong drink:
Habakkuk 2:15
Woe unto him that giveth his neighbour drink, that puttest thy bottle to him, and makest him drunken also, that thou mayest look on their nakedness!
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