Back with some new perspective

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by ILG

It is if it is the conclusion she has already come to after a long time of searching.

True. Yet, if that is a characterization of her past self, it means that is the label she is tagging the people with that she has left behind. So, each side she stood, she was pinning accusatory labels. She can clarify that as we are only reading words.

[navygoat1998]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

True. Yet, if that is a characterization of her past self, it means that is the label she is tagging the people with that she has left behind. So, each side she stood, she was pinning accusatory labels. She can clarify that as we are only reading words.

You come back and not even a hello for your old friend Navygoat

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by navygoat1998

You come back and not even a hello for your old friend Navygoat

Hello and Merry Christmas, my friend!!!



I'm only online today because I am lining out my menu for the rest of month - have company arriving this weekend. And THEN I clicked on AFF.....

[Roxanne Murphy]

My signature line is as honest as I can be at this place in my life. I am a recovering Pharisee. I have come to see my old attitudes and judgments of others as I believe Jesus saw the Pharisees. Being a Pharisee of itself isn't bad, for that was a very active culture group in Jesus' day, along with the Essenes, the Sadducees, the zealots, the Herodians. The Apostle Paul used his Pharisee status to his advantage when the Jews were questioning him with intent to harm him; he referenced his Pharisee credentials in his epistle to the Philippians; and he took a Nazarite vow and went to the temple in Jerusalem to fulfill that vow, because he was still a Jew raised under the law in a sect that held all of these things to be very important, yea, righteous. However, Paul understood that Calvary had fulfilled the law, and now made provision for whosoever will to be grafted into the true vine. Paul understood that the new Gentile believers did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved. He recognized that truly there is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither bond nor free but we have been made to drink of one cup, by one baptism we are baptized into one body. Now I am learning how to recognize that people don't need to convert to my spiritual culture to be saved. Their New Testament experience, like the household of Cornelius, makes them just as much a child of God as I am, regardless of their appearance.
This has not been an easy transition for me and I believe the transition isn't complete yet.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Roxanne Murphy

My signature line is as honest as I can be at this place in my life. I am a recovering Pharisee. I have come to see my old attitudes and judgments of others as I believe Jesus saw the Pharisees. Being a Pharisee of itself isn't bad, for that was a very active culture group in Jesus' day, along with the Essenes, the Sadducees, the zealots, the Herodians. The Apostle Paul used his Pharisee status to his advantage when the Jews were questioning him with intent to harm him; he referenced his Pharisee credentials in his epistle to the Philippians; and he took a Nazarite vow and went to the temple in Jerusalem to fulfill that vow, because he was still a Jew raised under the law in a sect that held all of these things to be very important, yea, righteous. However, Paul understood that Calvary had fulfilled the law, and now made provision for whosoever will to be grafted into the true vine. Paul understood that the new Gentile believers did not have to convert to Judaism to be saved. He recognize that truly there is Jew nor Gentile, neither bond nor free but we have been made to drink of one cup, by one baptism we are baptized into one body. Now I am learning how to recognize that people don't need to convert to my spiritual culture to be saved. Their New Testament experience, like the household of Cornelius, makes them just as much a child of God as I am, regardless of their appearance.
This has not been an easy transition for me and I believe the transition isn't complete yet.

For the record, you can believe in an outward dress code, dressing modestly and such and not be a Pharisee.

[Roxanne Murphy]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

For the record, you can believe in an outward dress code, dressing modestly and such and not be a Pharisee.

Of course. It is when those dress codes become the measuring stick of another person's status with God that the spirit of the Pharisees (or the leaven of the Pharisees) is present.

[n david]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

For the record, you can believe in an outward dress code, dressing modestly and such and not be a Pharisee.

This.

Also 99% of the time it's used as a derogatory term meant to bash UPC'ers or other conservatives.

[Hoovie]

Right. I can think of a few self righteous Pharisees... Some are standard types and some are not. I know plenty of conservative dressing, modest , humble Jesus lovers who are kind to the all and would pray all night with drunk or prostitute.

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Right. I can think of a few self righteous Pharisees... Some are standard types and some are not. I know plenty of conservative dressing, modest , humble Jesus lovers who are kind to the all and would pray all night with drunk or prostitute.

There's bad on both sides of the aisle and there's bad in EVERY organization and denomination. Anyone who doesn't realize that is simply naive. Anywhere there are people, there are going to be flaws.

[n david]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

There's bad on both sides of the aisle and there's bad in EVERY organization and denomination. Anyone who doesn't realize that is simply naive. Anywhere there are people, there are going to be flaws.