Hard Hitting Praise Tonight Misty Edwards

[CC1]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What do you think it is? I'm curious to know.

Clearly it is going to be strictly whatever n david thinks it should be! I betcha he can also let us know which folks have the baptism of the REAL Holy Ghost and which have the COUNTERFEIT. LOL!!

[n david]

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

What do you think it is? I'm curious to know.

As promoted by IHOPKC, John Piper, Beth Moore and others... it tries blending catholic mysticism and new age meditation with prayer.

The roots of this are based in Zen Buddhism, not scripture. The one's who promote this false doctrine try using Psalms 46:10 as their only scriptural basis: "Be still, and know that I am God;" however, that one line they use is completely taken out of context and misapplied.

Contemplative/Centering prayer was never taught by Jesus or His disciples. It was formed by Catholics and Buddhists as a way to find common ground between the religions.

The practice focuses on "breathing" or chanting a "sacred word," and focusing towards your inner divine self.

Where is this taught in the Bible? Inner divine self? The whole premise and point of contemplative/centering prayer is focusing on your inner divine self, which is completely contrary to scripture.

[n david]

Originally Posted by CC1

Clearly it is going to be strictly whatever n david thinks it should be! I betcha he can also let us know which folks have the baptism of the REAL Holy Ghost and which have the COUNTERFEIT. LOL!!

Have you read anything about contemplative/centering prayer? Mock on, but please read up on it for yourself.

Let me put this in terms most on AFF could understand....

Contemplative/Centering prayer is as false a doctrine and concept as Holy Magic Hair.

[n david]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Contemplative prayer is Biblical.

3 great sources.

Seeing is Believing by Greg Boyd.
Creative Prayer by Chris Tiegreen
Greg Boyd also has video

http://whchurch.org/sermons-media/se...agining-prayer

Boyd's did a series called animate, which in leaves no doubt contemplative prayer is biblical.

http://whchurch.org/blog/1369/what-a-surprise

Greg Boyd is an open theist. It doesn't surprise me he would be promoting more than one false doctrine.

[tv1a]

Great points to counter the new age arguments
1. Parallels do not imply influence
2. Parallels may be only apparent.
3. Parallels may be counterfeit.

Contemplative prayer can be found in Genesis and shows up in Revelation.

[tv1a]

Ah You show how weak your argument is. Attack the messenger instead of the message. That's what Democrats do.

Originally Posted by n david

Greg Boyd is an open theist. It doesn't surprise me he would be promoting more than one false doctrine.

[n david]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Contemplative prayer can be found in Genesis and shows up in Revelation.

Orly? Show me these scriptures.

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by n david

Orly? Show me these scriptures.

Hang on, this could be a long wait.

[n david]

Originally Posted by tv1a

Ah You show how weak your argument is. Attack the messenger instead of the message. That's what Democrats do.

I've already attacked the message. What's interesting is that you would use the opinion of a false teacher like Greg Boyd to try and help your defense of contemplative/centering prayer. What's next, you going to ask me to read something from Rob Bell?

[Abiding Now]

Originally Posted by n david

I've already attacked the message. What's interesting is that you would use the opinion of a false teacher like Greg Boyd to try and help your defense of contemplative/centering prayer. What's next, you going to ask me to read something from Rob Bell?

Exactly.