End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

and really I do not think she will be saved in childbearing refers to women in general but refere to Mary...but that is just a personal opinion....just for something for us to think about...

Whoever he was referring to will continue to be debated, however, the reference would have to be in the context of husband/wife producing a child, which would therefore make the scriptural context in the setting of a husband/wife instruction.

[Pressing-On]

The only thing women need to keep in mind is not to be an autocrat. If she prays and prophesies in church, she is part of the spiritual entity. Prophesying is instructive, so she is teaching.

[Sister Alvear]

I love to study...I love languages and history...

[Sister Alvear]

exact quote from rdp


And yet you forgot to quote the rest of my "exact words":

"But biblical prophesy has never been a sermon from the Scriptures, but rather a spontaneous & lofty breaking-forth in primarily foretelling God's intents in a persons life.


"In this strict sense we can say that women can 'preach' per-se, but not in the sense of taking a text & expositing to men (or spittin' & sputterin' like a wild-comanche {SP?}). When said women does this she is outside of her God-allotted position & so is the pastor who allows her to do so - hence, "Call me gone" .


Notice this...
The messages God wishes to convey through the prophets to the people are often preceded by some very familiar phrases:

"Thus says the Lord,..." (used over 400 times in the Hebrew Bible!)
"The word of the Lord came to [someone], saying..." (over 100 times!)
"Thus shall you say to [someone],..." (43 times)
"Hear the word of the Lord,..." (37 times)
"Speak to [someone], saying..." (14 times)

So from now on I will have to stand up and use one of these phases to continue saying what the Lord has given me....lol....

[Sister Alvear]

This is a true senario:

We had been having a lot of trouble with William Branham doctrine in some of our churches so one of our pastor's asked me to come and explain to his young ministers what WB doctrine really was...I went to Branham's meetings several times, had friends to go off into it...seen a lot...read all his books...

So with the help of several friends I got a little study ready for the ones that wanted to understand what it really was...so for one month we met together and I read to them from the little booklet and let them ask questions.

One night as we were reading the spirit of the Lord came upon me and all of a sudden I said, Someone that is here tonight will die tomorrow before noon...we closed our booklets and fell to our faces praying...The next day around 11 Am my phone rang and it was the pastor's daughter telling me that one of the young men 34 years old had fell dead at work....

So according to rdp it was sinful for me to tell our brothers what WB believed yet ok for me to rise up and say someone is going to die tomorrow...

That makes no sense at all....if I was at odds with God and God was upset at me for teaching and warning our ministers...then why in the world did he not use the precious, precious pastor of that church? He was sitting there taking notes...for he had no earthly idea of WB teaching. He was the one who asked me to come and made it possible for his ministers to be there.

Just like Priscilla of old I was teaching the word of God. For if you notice even though she was with her husband the word THEY EXPLAINED...they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately. Acts 18:24-26 (NASB)

Did Priscilla, with her husband, teach Apollos “the Way of God more accurately”, including the doctrine of Christian baptism? Did a woman, Priscilla, teach a man, Apollos? Yes, she did and no where do we find anyone condemning her for doing so.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

This is a true senario:

We had been having a lot of trouble with William Branham doctrine in some of our churches so one of our pastor's asked me to come and explain to his young ministers what WB doctrine really was...I went to Branham's meetings several times, had friends to go off into it...seen a lot...read all his books...

So with the help of several friends I got a little study ready for the ones that wanted to understand what it really was...so for one month we met together and I read to them from the little booklet and let them ask questions.

One night as we were reading the spirit of the Lord came upon me and all of a sudden I said, Someone that is here tonight will die tomorrow before noon...we closed our booklets and fell to our faces praying...The next day around 11 Am my phone rang and it was the pastor's daughter telling me that one of the young men 34 years old had fell dead at work....

So according to rdp it was sinful for me to tell our brothers what WB believed yet ok for me to rise up and say someone is going to die tomorrow...

That makes no sense at all....if I was at odds with God and God was upset at me for teaching and warning our ministers...then why in the world did he not use the precious, precious pastor of that church? He was sitting there taking notes...for he had no earthly idea of WB teaching. He was the one who asked me to come and made it possible for his ministers to be there.

Just like Priscilla of old I was teaching the word of God. For if you notice even though she was with her husband the word THEY EXPLAINED...they took him aside and explained to him the way of God more accurately. Acts 18:24-26 (NASB)

Did Priscilla, with her husband, teach Apollos “the Way of God more accurately”, including the doctrine of Christian baptism? Did a woman, Priscilla, teach a man, Apollos? Yes, she did and no where do we find anyone condemning her for doing so.

And what does ANY of this have to do with what the Bible says??? Think I'll continue to formulate my doctrines from the Bible as opposed to subjective human experiences - just as I always will!


Oh, & RDP did not write the Bible - so it's not "my opinion" !

[Sister Alvear]

another peice of food for thought...

King Lemuel’s mother is another Bible woman who taught a man. The teaching of this woman has been recorded in Scripture and thus has the authority of Scripture.

[Sister Alvear]

The word "prophet" derives from the Greek word "to announce." A prophet of the LORD God spoke His words. The prophet spoke the words of God, not his own. He was a mouthpiece which God declared His message to men.

Now prophecy has both a broad and a narrow meaning. The broad meaning can be defined as to "forth-tell", and the narrow meaning means to "fore-tell."



TO ANNOUNCE....

JEWISH WRITINGS DESCRIBE PROPHETS AS: A prophet is an individual who receives a message from G-d to transmit to the people.


Baker's dictionary: rophet, Prophetess, Prophecy
A prophet was an individual who received a call from God to be God's spokesperson, often connected with some crisis that was about to occur, and then announced God's message of judgment and/or deliverance to Israel and the nations. The importance of this office can be seen in the fact that the word "prophet" occurs over 300 times in the Old Testament and almost 125 times in the New Testament. The term "prophetess" appears 6 times in the Old Testament and 2 times in the New Testament.

proph·et
ˈpräfit/
noun
1.
a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.

another dictionary says...

A prophet is a spokesperson for God. The prophet admonishes, warns, directs, encourages, intercedes, teaches and counsels. He brings the word of God to the people of God and calls the people to respond.


proph·et·ess
ˈpräfətəs/
noun
1.
a female prophet.




The doctrine of the New Testament has given women permission to preach (prophesy) before the church and the world( Acts2:16-18)-It shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:,and in the book of Acts we see women working in the ministry, but alongside or with the men of the ministry.(Acts18)

A prophetess is simply a female prophet. Just like a prophet, a prophetess is a person called by God. A prophet (male or female) is the mouthpiece for the one who sends him or her; the prophet speaks on behalf of the sender (Exodus 7:1-2). A prophet is considered a seer (1 Samuel 9:9), because God gives him or her the gift of foreknowledge. God reveals his secrets to prophets (Amos 3:7), and true prophesy is initiated by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:21). 1 Corinthians 12:28 and Ephesians 4:11

Even during times when women held low standing in the eyes of men, the Bible tells stories of women in God-given positions of power and influence. After all, it is just like God to choose what mankind considers as the "weak things of the world to put to shame the things which [mankind considers] are mighty" (1 Corinthians 1:26-31).

Notice this:To prophesy is to preach according to Webster (National Dictionary of English Language P. F. Collier & Son, New York 1937). Prophetess “female preacher” (Young’s Analytical Concordance pg. 781).
Some are quick to say they prophesied only in homes, and not in church, but Ephesians 4:12 says, “Even so ye, for as much as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.”
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Just as a man can edify the church so can a woman edify the church...

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

The word "prophet" derives from the Greek word "to announce." A prophet of the LORD God spoke His words. The prophet spoke the words of God, not his own. He was a mouthpiece which God declared His message to men.

Now prophecy has both a broad and a narrow meaning. The broad meaning can be defined as to "forth-tell", and the narrow meaning means to "fore-tell."



TO ANNOUNCE....

JEWISH WRITINGS DESCRIBE PROPHETS AS: A prophet is an individual who receives a message from G-d to transmit to the people.


Baker's dictionary: rophet, Prophetess, Prophecy
A prophet was an individual who received a call from God to be God's spokesperson, often connected with some crisis that was about to occur, and then announced God's message of judgment and/or deliverance to Israel and the nations. The importance of this office can be seen in the fact that the word "prophet" occurs over 300 times in the Old Testament and almost 125 times in the New Testament. The term "prophetess" appears 6 times in the Old Testament and 2 times in the New Testament.

proph·et
ˈpräfit/
noun
1.
a person regarded as an inspired teacher or proclaimer of the will of God.

another dictionary says...

A prophet is a spokesperson for God. The prophet admonishes, warns, directs, encourages, intercedes, teaches and counsels. He brings the word of God to the people of God and calls the people to respond.


proph·et·ess
ˈpräfətəs/
noun
1.
a female prophet.




The doctrine of the New Testament has given women permission to preach (prophesy) before the church and the world( Acts2:16-18)-It shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:,and in the book of Acts we see women working in the ministry, but alongside or with the men of the ministry.(Acts18)

A prophetess is simply a female prophet. Just like a prophet, a prophetess is a person called by God. A prophet (male or female) is the mouthpiece for the one who sends him or her; the prophet speaks on behalf of the sender (Exodus 7:1-2). A prophet is considered a seer (1 Samuel 9:9), because God gives him or her the gift of foreknowledge. God reveals his secrets to prophets (Amos 3:7), and true prophesy is initiated by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:21). 1 Corinthians 12:28 and Ephesians 4:11

Even during times when women held low standing in the eyes of men, the Bible tells stories of women in God-given positions of power and influence. After all, it is just like God to choose what mankind considers as the "weak things of the world to put to shame the things which [mankind considers] are mighty" (1 Corinthians 1:26-31).

Notice this:To prophesy is to preach according to Webster (National Dictionary of English Language P. F. Collier & Son, New York 1937). Prophetess “female preacher” (Young’s Analytical Concordance pg. 781).
Some are quick to say they prophesied only in homes, and not in church, but Ephesians 4:12 says, “Even so ye, for as much as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.”
..
Just as a man can edify the church so can a woman edify the church...

Sigh - For the 10th time biblical prophecy is NOT, nor has EVER been a sermon from the Scriptures - but if you somehow think it is - I keep asking you to demonstrate where a woman has done this FROM THE BIBLE ITSELF:____________?


Stillllllll waiting .


Check back in later tonight.

[rdp]

Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

proph·et·ess
ˈpräfətəs/
noun
1.
a female prophet.




The doctrine of the New Testament has given women permission to preach (prophesy) before the church and the world( Acts2:16-18)-It shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams; And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:,and in the book of Acts we see women working in the ministry, but alongside or with the men of the ministry.(Acts18)


Still waiting on the passage which "gives women permission to preach before the church, or where we can ever see women "preaching sermons from the Scriptures to men":____________? Been waiting for eons now !


A prophetess is simply a female prophet. Just like a prophet, a prophetess is a person called by God. A prophet (male or female) is the mouthpiece for the one who sends him or her; the prophet speaks on behalf of the sender (Exodus 7:1-2). A prophet is considered a seer (1 Samuel 9:9), because God gives him or her the gift of foreknowledge. God reveals his secrets to prophets (Amos 3:7), and true prophesy is initiated by the Holy Ghost (2 Peter 1:21). 1 Corinthians 12:28 and Ephesians 4:11


Difference in the office of a "prophet" vs. one who has merely "prophesied" - Just as there's a difference in an "electrician" & one who has done some electrical work around the house. Equivocation fallacy.


Even during times when women held low standing in the eyes of men, the Bible tells stories of women in God-given positions of power and influence. After all, it is just like God to choose what mankind considers as the "weak things of the world to put to shame the things which [mankind considers] are mighty" (1 Corinthians 1:26-31).

And specifically where can we read of a woman exercising authority over men with the Word of God - IN the actual Word of God:_____________? Cannot produce what does not exist now can we?


Notice this:To prophesy is to preach according to Webster (National Dictionary of English Language P. F. Collier & Son, New York 1937). Prophetess “female preacher” (Young’s Analytical Concordance pg. 781).


In the first place, it's just plumb silly to introduce "Webster" into biblical discussion . Secondly, I've already asked you (which, go figure, you completely ignored) if you also believe in multiple "Creators" since Young equally taught the same ? Guess we just pick & choose what we accept from Young & what we reject - all to accommodate our theological biases of course .


Some are quick to say they prophesied only in homes, and not in church, but Ephesians 4:12 says, “Even so ye, for as much as ye are zealous of spiritual gifts, seek that ye may excel to the edifying of the church.”
..
Just as a man can edify the church so can a woman edify the church...

Of course women can "prophesy" - but biblical prophesy is not, nor has ever been, a premeditated sermon from the Scriptures to men as you are advocating (for the umpteenth time now ). Any woman who does this is in direct defiance to God-Breathed Scripture & out of her place (as is the pastor who allowed it).


And, experience never trumps God's clear Word!