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01-22-2014, 02:19 PM
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Sister Alvear
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
it says men and women....
Latin Vulgate
8:3 Saulus vero devastabat ecclesiam per domos intrans et trahens viros ac mulieres tradebat in custodiam
King James Version
8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to prison.
American Standard Version
8:3 But Saul laid waste the church, entering into every house, and dragging men and women committed them to prison.
Bible in Basic English
8:3 But Saul was burning with hate against the church, going into every house and taking men and women and putting them in prison.
Darby's English Translation
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into the houses one after another, and dragging off both men and women delivered them up to prison.
Douay Rheims
8:3 But Saul made havock of the church, entering in from house to house, and dragging away men and women, committed them to prison.
Noah Webster Bible
8:3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and hauling men and women committed them to prison.
Weymouth New Testament
8:3 But Saul cruelly harassed the Church. He went into house after house, and, dragging off both men and women, threw them into prison.
World English Bible
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into every house, and dragged both men and women off to prison.
Young's Literal Translation
8:3 and Saul was making havoc of the assembly, into every house entering, and haling men and women, was giving them up to prison;
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01-22-2014, 02:27 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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it says men and women....
Latin Vulgate
8:3 Saulus vero devastabat ecclesiam per domos intrans et trahens viros ac mulieres tradebat in custodiam
King James Version
8:3 As for Saul, he made havock of the church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed [them] to prison.
American Standard Version
8:3 But Saul laid waste the church, entering into every house, and dragging men and women committed them to prison.
Bible in Basic English
8:3 But Saul was burning with hate against the church, going into every house and taking men and women and putting them in prison.
Darby's English Translation
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into the houses one after another, and dragging off both men and women delivered them up to prison.
Douay Rheims
8:3 But Saul made havock of the church, entering in from house to house, and dragging away men and women, committed them to prison.
Noah Webster Bible
8:3 As for Saul, he made havoc of the church, entering into every house, and hauling men and women committed them to prison.
Weymouth New Testament
8:3 But Saul cruelly harassed the Church. He went into house after house, and, dragging off both men and women, threw them into prison.
World English Bible
8:3 But Saul ravaged the assembly, entering into every house, and dragged both men and women off to prison.
Young's Literal Translation
8:3 and Saul was making havoc of the assembly, into every house entering, and haling men and women, was giving them up to prison;
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Exactly - "men and women" who were "in prison" - how on earth you can quote the actual text, then deny what it explicitly says is absolutely mind-boggling - seriously (not being ugly, but honest). The text specifically states that the women were in prison, which you somehow mysteriously interpret to mean they were outside of prison "preaching" every where ?
Besides, even this is not an example of women teaching men in a church setting contra I Tim. 2 & I Cor. 14, but rather winning the lost (regardless, the women were in prison - not outside of prison ?).
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01-22-2014, 02:20 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Men and Women...
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01-22-2014, 02:41 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Men and Women...
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"In Prison" .
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01-22-2014, 02:44 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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"In Prison" .
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they....went everywhere and preached...
acts:
"8:4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
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01-22-2014, 02:46 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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they....went everywhere and preached...
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"8:4 Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word.
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But the text specifically states that the women were in prison - unless we have another "jail-break" on our hands .
You're somehow (?) assuming this validates women to teach men from the Scriptures in the NT church ?
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01-22-2014, 02:22 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
Acts 8:4 "Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word."
“Went everywhere”: This Greek word is used frequently in Acts for missionary efforts (verse 40; 9:32; 13:6; 14:24; 15:3, 41; 16:6; 18:23; 19:1, 21; 20:2).
who were the THEY? The they were the ones that got away! That is a logicial fact....
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01-22-2014, 02:33 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Acts 8:4 "Therefore they that were scattered abroad went every where preaching the word."
“Went everywhere”: This Greek word is used frequently in Acts for missionary efforts (verse 40; 9:32; 13:6; 14:24; 15:3, 41; 16:6; 18:23; 19:1, 21; 20:2).
who were the THEY? The they were the ones that got away! That is a logicial fact....
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Where does this text say women were preaching to men in a church-setting? Winning the lost, maybe (thought the biblical data does not state that), but you're arguing in favor of women "preaching to men" in the present-day church-setting, not merely witnessing to the lost (which has nothing to do with Paul's clear instructions to the church).
Still waiting on that biblical text which shows women preaching to men out of the Scriptures in the NT church:___________?
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01-24-2014, 04:42 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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Where does this text say women were preaching to men in a church-setting? Winning the lost, maybe (thought the biblical data does not state that), but you're arguing in favor of women "preaching to men" in the present-day church-setting, not merely witnessing to the lost (which has nothing to do with Paul's clear instructions to the church).
Still waiting on that biblical text which shows women preaching to men out of the Scriptures in the NT church:___________?
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What exactly is a 'church setting' according to scripture? And where does scripture say that a 'church setting' is necessary to be preached in? What constitutes a 'church setting'?
Preaching can be done without using scripture how? I'm puzzled why you keep bringing up certain qualifications to your statements to prove your point.
Prove this: Name the church Jesus preached at, cite where His pulpit was located, and inform us all about the scripture that spoke about His 'church settings'.
If being a preacher means one has to preach in a building behind a pulpit, Jesus was no preacher at all.
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01-24-2014, 06:35 PM
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11
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What exactly is a 'church setting' according to scripture? And where does scripture say that a 'church setting' is necessary to be preached in? What constitutes a 'church setting'?
The gathering of believers - do I really have to explain this to you?
Preaching can be done without using scripture how? I'm puzzled why you keep bringing up certain qualifications to your statements to prove your point.
Not "my" point - It was the Apostle Paul's. Paul explicitly wrote Timothy to instruct him in church-order. I have quoted the very explicit Scripture over & over & over & over & over & over??
Prove this: Name the church Jesus preached at, cite where His pulpit was located, and inform us all about the scripture that spoke about His 'church settings'.
Umm, big revelation: Jesus Christ was not in the church-age - which is precisely the reason He told Peter "I W-I-L-L build my church..." .
Now, please "inform us all" specifically what the following passages means? Do they mean exactly what they say?
11 A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. 12 I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not the one deceived; it was the woman who was deceived and became a sinner....I am writing you these instructions so that, 15 if I am delayed, you will know how people ought to conduct themselves in God’s household, which is the church."
If being a preacher means one has to preach in a building behind a pulpit, Jesus was no preacher at all.
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Umm, specifically where have I ever-once referenced either a "building" or a "pulpit":___________? Please demonstrate what you speculate by copy-pasting my reference to either:_________.
See where assuming will land you? But, hey, anything to cast a cloud upon God's Word & render it of no affect...right ?
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