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Old 02-04-2014, 10:22 AM
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and if the word of the Lord came from Hulda or Deborah?

And where did Deborah or Huldah (or any other woman in the Bible) expound from the Scriptures to a congregation of men:__________?








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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

Hulda did more than that.....
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And where did Deborah or Huldah (or any other woman in the Bible) expound from the Scriptures to a congregation of men:__________?








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Hulda did more than that.....
It is interesting to see how Jews view Hulda - the WOMEN's prophet...

"Hulda lived during the era of the First Temple and was sole prophetess for the women."

"Kings II tells us that King Yoshiayhu turns to Hulda for advice when the High Priest (Kohen Gadol) sends him a Torah scroll discovered inside the Temple."

"Why does the king consult Hulda, the women's prophet, rather than bringing his question to the men's prophets, Jeremiah (Hulda's cousin) or Tzephaniah?"

" According to the tenets of prophecy, a prophet is compelled to report God's message word-for-word. In this sense, Yoshiayhu would have received the same answer to his inquiry from any prophet - man or woman."
http://www.torah.org/learning/women/class51.html



A prophet or prophetess simply gives voice to what God says and God can even use a donkey for this purpose. For purposes of leadership God has chosen to use men. Bishops and deacons are exclusively men.
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It is interesting to see how Jews view Hulda - the WOMEN's prophet...

"Hulda lived during the era of the First Temple and was sole prophetess for the women."

"Kings II tells us that King Yoshiayhu turns to Hulda for advice when the High Priest (Kohen Gadol) sends him a Torah scroll discovered inside the Temple."

"Why does the king consult Hulda, the women's prophet, rather than bringing his question to the men's prophets, Jeremiah (Hulda's cousin) or Tzephaniah?"

" According to the tenets of prophecy, a prophet is compelled to report God's message word-for-word. In this sense, Yoshiayhu would have received the same answer to his inquiry from any prophet - man or woman."
http://www.torah.org/learning/women/class51.html



A prophet or prophetess simply gives voice to what God says and God can even use a donkey for this purpose. For purposes of leadership God has chosen to use men. Bishops and deacons are exclusively men.

Exactly!


But, trust me, they'll just completely ignore these facts - since facts is not high on their priority list when it come to biblical issues !
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Okay gals - been fun again - off to church tonight so I can beat them-thar poor ol' women into full submission !


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Hulda did more than that.....


That wasn't the question......
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

RDP/Pliny have yet to produce a scripture that says "a woman shalt not preach".... or that a woman cannot fulfill the role of an evangelist for that matter.
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RDP/Pliny have yet to produce a scripture that says "a woman shalt not preach".... or that a woman cannot fulfill the role of an evangelist for that matter.
LOL - you're correct, we've not produced "a" Scripture that specifically forbids women from "preaching" to men in the church - we've produced many ! You just refuse to accept the Biblical data as it's written:


New International Version
I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet.

New Living Translation
I do not let women teach men or have authority over them. Let them listen quietly.

English Standard Version
I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man; rather, she is to remain quiet.

New American Standard Bible
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet.

King James Bible
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Holman Christian Standard Bible
I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man; instead, she is to be silent.

International Standard Version
Moreover, in the area of teaching, I am not allowing a woman to instigate conflict toward a man. Instead, she is to remain calm.

NET Bible
But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man. She must remain quiet.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
For I do not allow a woman to teach, neither to usurp over a man, but she should be quiet;

GOD'S WORD® Translation
I don't allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man. Instead, she should be quiet.

Jubilee Bible 2000
For I do not allow a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over a mature man, but to be at rest.

King James 2000 Bible
But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have authority over the man, but to be in silence.

American King James Version
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

American Standard Version
But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.

Douay-Rheims Bible
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to use authority over the man: but to be in silence.

Darby Bible Translation
but I do not suffer a woman to teach nor to exercise authority over man, but to be in quietness;

English Revised Version
But I permit not a woman to teach, nor to have dominion over a man, but to be in quietness.

Webster's Bible Translation
But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.

Weymouth New Testament
I do not permit a woman to teach, nor have authority over a man, but she must remain silent.

World English Bible
But I don't permit a woman to teach, nor to exercise authority over a man, but to be in quietness.



Have ye' so soon forgotten the definition of the verb "teach":


In the NT, 1321 /didáskō ("teach") nearly always refers to teaching the Scriptures (the written Word of God). The key role of teaching Scripture is shown by its great frequency in the NT, and the variety of word-forms (cognates). This includes three noun-forms, two adjectival forms, and one verb, totaling about 220 occurrences in the NT.



Yes, the Bible explicitly forbids women to preach to men in the church - you simply have your heels dug in so you can protect your defiance to Scripture .
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Re: End Time Army of Women Preachers Psalms 68:11

Pliny wrote to Trajan at the beginning of the second century that he had subjected women to the torture in persecution that he might extort confession: "Ex duabus aucillis quæ ministræ dicebantur." Evidently one of these nouns, ancilla, is the common designation of handmaid, and the other, ministra, the official name of a female servant. And this term translates the Greek diakonoV in patristic Latin. [5]

The patristic Latin could be translated: "I have judged it necessary to obtain information by torture from two servicing women (ancillae) called by them 'deaconesses' (ministrae)." [6] This may be the first reference to female deaconesses. ( This is found in almost all church history books.)
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Pliny wrote to Trajan at the beginning of the second century that he had subjected women to the torture in persecution that he might extort confession: "Ex duabus aucillis quæ ministræ dicebantur." Evidently one of these nouns, ancilla, is the common designation of handmaid, and the other, ministra, the official name of a female servant. And this term translates the Greek diakonoV in patristic Latin. [5]

The patristic Latin could be translated: "I have judged it necessary to obtain information by torture from two servicing women (ancillae) called by them 'deaconesses' (ministrae)." [6] This may be the first reference to female deaconesses. ( This is found in almost all church history books.)

There she goes again with her isolated-esoteric "(mis)translations" !
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