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06-11-2018, 07:38 PM
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Re: Bott '14
Another excellent message by Jeff Arnold. 
The Marvelous Ministry of Mistakes and Miracles
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06-12-2018, 05:40 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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This post hasn't aged well...
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Because this forum use to be filled with disgruntled employees. With the advent of Facebook They are all over there profusely bleeding all over each other, as they lick their open sores. Discussing how the UPCI, Apostolic Holiness movement is sinking into its ecclesiastical tar pit. Wee, wee, wee, all the way home.
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01-23-2014, 05:42 PM
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BOTT's best days are behind them. It doesn't help Stockton schedules their indoctrination love fest about the same time.
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That must be why BOTT is packed out year after year. 
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01-24-2014, 09:11 AM
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Re: Bott '14
The size of the audience is not indicative of the quality of a conference. Many people show up just because its their trip to the upci Mecca.
The Rolling Stones still sell out stadiums. They haven't had a hit song in years.
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01-24-2014, 10:25 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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The size of the audience is not indicative of the quality of a conference. Many people show up just because its their trip to the upci Mecca.
The Rolling Stones still sell out stadiums. They haven't had a hit song in years.
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So it's not about the number of people who attend, now it's about the quality of the conference. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'm not surprised you have a low opinion of BOTT. You're not alone in the low opinion of BOTT, but definitely in the minority compared to the thousands who attend and are blessed by it.
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BOTT's best days are behind them. It doesn't help Stockton schedules their indoctrination love fest about the same time.
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Landmark is next week, but what does that matter?
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01-24-2014, 08:35 AM
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01-24-2014, 10:23 AM
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Strange in a Strange Land...
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Re: Bott '14
I find it funny that n david defends a conference for an organization that he is no longer a part of. It's craziness...
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01-24-2014, 10:31 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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I find it funny that n david defends a conference for an organization that he is no longer a part of. It's craziness...
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It's not craziness. I have many friends who are still a part of the UPC. Also, I love the Mangun's and POA. Their reach extends to non-UPC ministers like Jentezen Franklin, John Maxwell and others.
BOTT is a great conference I attended several times a couple decades ago, and have watched DVDs of messages since then. It's blessed my life. I don't have to be UPC to defend something that has impacted my life. Also, BOTT is not run by UPCI HQ, otherwise you wouldn't have had a PAW or ALJC minister preaching at the conference in the past.
I fellowship with Independent, UPC, PAW, ALJC, and other oneness organizations. I'm not bound by organizations or its HQ.
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01-24-2014, 10:35 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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It's not craziness. I have many friends who are still a part of the UPC. Also, I love the Mangun's and POA. Their reach extends to non-UPC ministers like Jentezen Franklin, John Maxwell and others.
BOTT is a great conference I attended several times a couple decades ago, and have watched DVDs of messages since then. It's blessed my life. I don't have to be UPC to defend something that has impacted my life. Also, BOTT is not run by UPCI HQ, otherwise you wouldn't have had a PAW or ALJC minister preaching at the conference in the past.
I fellowship with Independent, UPC, PAW, ALJC, and other oneness organizations. I'm not bound by organizations or its HQ.
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I understand. I just figure if there is a reason one left then there is also a reason the look back at what they left.
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01-24-2014, 10:41 AM
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Re: Bott '14
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I understand. I just figure if there is a reason one left then there is also a reason the look back at what they left.
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I don't believe in the extra-biblical dress standards the UPCI includes in its statement of faith. Nor do I like the exclusiveness and barriers caused by its HQ and District Boards.
Frank Bartleman's book on Azusa helped with my desire to be independent and not tied to man-made organization.
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