The Question No One Can Answer

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

NotForSale:

I have a question.... when a seed is put into the ground, it is dried, shriveled up, and lifeless. How can something that is dead, begin to produce life?

I am a horticulturist, and seeds are alive. They can also die if they are not stored properly, or they are exposed to extremes. If they die, the seed will not germinate.

"A seed is a living, respiring organism, despite usually appearing inert or even dead. To remain alive, the embryo must have access to food and oxygen. Eventually if it runs out of food or is subjected to physical damage, including attack by insects or fungi, it will die. If you want the seed to be sown to produce another plant, a dead seed is of no value whatever."

http://aseeds.net.au/9-faqs/general/...w-does-it-work

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

NotForSale:

I have a question.... when a seed is put into the ground, it is dried, shriveled up, and lifeless. How can something that is dead, begin to produce life?

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I am a horticulturist, and seeds are alive. They can also die if they are not stored properly, or they are exposed to extremes. If they die, the seed will not germinate.

"A seed is a living, respiring organism, despite usually appearing inert or even dead. To remain alive, the embryo must have access to food and oxygen. Eventually if it runs out of food or is subjected to physical damage, including attack by insects or fungi, it will die. If you want the seed to be sown to produce another plant, a dead seed is of no value whatever."

http://aseeds.net.au/9-faqs/general/...w-does-it-work

Exactly.

A seed appears lifeless, without form, and not having any life, however, life can inherently live within a seed, even though by looking at the seed it looks dead. Until that seed is put into the ground though, in apparent death, it will not be able to bring forth that life that resides in it.

I believe that this is a great way to understand that life does not end just when we think it does. New life always comes forth out of that which appears dead. The laws of nature teach us that new life CAN come forth out of that which is, to all appearances dead.

For this reason, this natural law teaches us that when a death takes place, under the right circumstances, that form takes on life that was already present within itself to live again.

I believe this is a tremendous parable that we can look to, and understand that when we die, we do not die to never live again. Instead, (as you mentioned above) if the right circumstances have been a part of our lives (water, sun, nutrients naturally for the seed, and for us spiritually, if our faith is in an eternal God who manifested himself through his Son Jesus), then new life is able to come forth out of that death.

This is the hope that Christians have. It is not fear! It is life eternal. We can live a wonderful life here on earth with the Lord, walking with Him and then, at a given point in time, our life as we know it here will end in death, but that death will serve to bring forth a newness of life that will be something totally different, and beyond what we can expect from this life. That is our hope. It is not a fear, but it is a hope that springs from the knowledge that we can have life eternal in Jesus Christ.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord

Exactly.

A seed appears lifeless, without form, and not having any life, however, life can inherently live within a seed, even though by looking at the seed it looks dead. Until that seed is put into the ground though, in apparent death, it will not be able to bring forth that life that resides in it.

I believe that this is a great way to understand that life does not end just when we think it does. New life always comes forth out of that which appears dead. The laws of nature teach us that new life CAN come forth out of that which is, to all appearances dead.

For this reason, this natural law teaches us that when a death takes place, under the right circumstances, that form takes on life that was already present within itself to live again.

I believe this is a tremendous parable that we can look to, and understand that when we die, we do not die to never live again. Instead, (as you mentioned above) if the right circumstances have been a part of our lives (water, sun, nutrients naturally for the seed, and for us spiritually, if our faith is in an eternal God who manifested himself through his Son Jesus), then new life is able to come forth out of that death.

This is the hope that Christians have. It is not fear! It is life eternal. We can live a wonderful life here on earth with the Lord, walking with Him and then, at a given point in time, our life as we know it here will end in death, but that death will serve to bring forth a newness of life that will be something totally different, and beyond what we can expect from this life. That is our hope. It is not a fear, but it is a hope that springs from the knowledge that we can have life eternal in Jesus Christ.

Look, you didn't say, "APPEAR" dead, you said dead. You're starting to do what Dave is doing, twisting the truth when you're cornered to save face.

[KeptByTheWord]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

Look, you didn't say, "APPEAR" dead, you said dead. You're starting to do what Dave is doing, twisting the truth when you're cornered to save face.

LOL! How am I "cornered"?

Can you deny that a seed can either be dead, or appears to be dead? Can you deny that from this apparent lack of life, there does come forth life? Can you deny the natural lesson from this?

[votivesoul]

You got me pegged, NFS.

I am a slave to Christ through the will of God. I am bound to the pure and un-defiled religion of visiting and comforting widows and orphans in their affliction and in keeping myself un-spotted in the world.

Now let me see if I can peg you?

1 But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction.
2 And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of.
3 And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.
4 For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment;
5 And spared not the old world, but saved Noah the eighth person, a preacher of righteousness, bringing in the flood upon the world of the ungodly;
6 And turning the cities of Sodom and Gomorrha into ashes condemned them with an overthrow, making them an ensample unto those that after should live ungodly;
7 And delivered just Lot, vexed with the filthy conversation of the wicked:
8 (For that righteous man dwelling among them, in seeing and hearing, vexed his righteous soul from day to day with their unlawful deeds; )
9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:
10 But chiefly them that walk after the flesh in the lust of uncleanness, and despise government. Presumptuous are they, selfwilled, they are not afraid to speak evil of dignities.
11 Whereas angels, which are greater in power and might, bring not railing accusation against them before the Lord.
12 But these, as natural brute beasts, made to be taken and destroyed, speak evil of the things that they understand not; and shall utterly perish in their own corruption;
13 And shall receive the reward of unrighteousness, as they that count it pleasure to riot in the day time. Spots they are and blemishes, sporting themselves with their own deceivings while they feast with you;
14 Having eyes full of adultery, and that cannot cease from sin; beguiling unstable souls: an heart they have exercised with covetous practices; cursed children:
15 Which have forsaken the right way, and are gone astray, following the way of Balaam the son of Bosor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness;
16 But was rebuked for his iniquity: the dumb ass speaking with man's voice forbad the madness of the prophet.
17 These are wells without water, clouds that are carried with a tempest; to whom the mist of darkness is reserved for ever.
18 For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19 While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.
20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

[NotforSale]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

You got me pegged, NFS.

I am a slave to Christ through the will of God. I am bound to the pure and un-defiled religion of visiting and comforting widows and orphans in their affliction and in keeping myself un-spotted in the world.

Now let me see if I can peg you?

I'm not surprised that you are a Slave to Religion, a very sad bondage. You can't be bound to anything pure or undefiled here on Earth, because there is no such thing.

You also can't keep yourself unspotted from the World because you were born in sin and shapen in iniquity. There are none righteous…and Paul said:

"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by NotforSale

I'm not surprised that you are a Slave to Religion, a very sad bondage. You can't be bound to anything pure or undefiled here on Earth, because there is no such thing.

You also can't keep yourself unspotted from the World because you were born in sin and shapen in iniquity. There are none righteous…and Paul said:

"For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do."

So you're calling James, the brother of the Lord Jesus, who, in the Hebrew tongue was known as a Tzaddik, a liar?

[Monterrey]

So has anyone come up with the answer in over 100 posts?

[Sean]

Answer to what???, did someone ask a question???LOL

[Disciple4life]

Hebrews 9:27 Inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once, and after this, judgment,

Sounds pretty simple to me. Do I get a prize?