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I do not see or hear tongues in Acts 8. A glaring truth my PAJC friends have forgotten to discuss ... in this thread .... nor have they addressed Philips failure to preach the saving gospel message by waiting and putting these souls in jeopardy .... but have harped on their belief that receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit must fit their doctrinal view ... yet there is no evidence that coincides with this passage .
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05-29-2007, 12:17 AM
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I do not see or hear tongues in Acts 8. A glaring truth my PAJC friends have forgotten to discuss ... in this thread .... nor have they addressed Philips failure to preaching the saving gospel message by waiting and putting these souls in jeopardy .... but have harped on their belief that receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit must fit their doctrinal view ... yet there is no evidence that this passage coincides. |
Phillip did not have the Keys he took them as far as he could. Peter was given the Keys. And he used them in this chapter.
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05-29-2007, 12:19 AM
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Phillip did not have the Keys he took them as far as he could. Peter was given the Keys. And he used them in this chapter.
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Extrabiblical Roman Catholic theology ... not buying it .... his keys were related to his understanding that Jesus Christ was the Son of God ...
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05-29-2007, 12:44 AM
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I do not see or hear tongues in Acts 8. A glaring truth my PAJC friends have forgotten to discuss ... in this thread .... nor have they addressed Philips failure to preach the saving gospel message by waiting and putting these souls in jeopardy .... but have harped on their belief that receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit must fit their doctrinal view ... yet there is no evidence that coincides with this passage . |
Simon saw something that led him believe the Samaritans received the Holy Spirit. There was some visible sign.
18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
Philip preached:
5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
What makes you think what Philip preached was any different than what Peter preached on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2?
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05-29-2007, 12:57 AM
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Simon saw something that led him believe the Samaritans received the Holy Spirit. There was some visible sign.
18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
Philip preached:
5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
What makes you think what Philip preached was any different than what Peter preached on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2? |
Peter did not preach "tongues" on the Day of Pentecost.
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05-29-2007, 01:00 AM
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Peter did not preach "tongues" on the Day of Pentecost.
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No, he preached to them the clarification of their of misunderstanding of evidence and preached to them why they needed to partake in such an outpouring.
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05-29-2007, 01:13 AM
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No, he preached to them the clarification of their of misunderstanding of evidence and preached to them why they needed to partake in such an outpouring.
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Right. I'm all for what Peter preached! 
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05-29-2007, 01:12 AM
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Peter did not preach "tongues" on the Day of Pentecost.
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I didn't say Peter preached 'tongues' on the day of Pentecost but he did explain what was happening to the disciples whom some in the crowd thought were drunk. " This is that.." Peter did say this....the disciples speaking in tongues...was that...the prophecy of Joel about the outpouring of God's Spirit in the last days. Peter did preach that tongues was the sign of receiving the Spirit.
My point though in regards to Acts 8 is that Philip preached the same message that Peter preached and that would include recieving the Spirit with the evidence of tongues.
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05-29-2007, 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I didn't say Peter preached 'tongues' on the day of Pentecost but he did explain what was happening to the disciples whom some in the crowd thought were drunk. " This is that.." Peter did say this....the disciples speaking in tongues...was that...the prophecy of Joel about the outpouring of God's Spirit in the last days. Peter did preach that tongues was the sign of receiving the Spirit.
My point though in regards to Acts 8 is that Philip preached the same message that Peter preached and that would include recieving the Spirit with the evidence of tongues. |
Mizpeh ...... quickly here.....
I don't see where Joel's prophecy had to do with or referenced 'salvation' -- certainly can't get that from the context and it's not mentioned at all in the prophecy he gave there.
Joel 2:28-29: And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:
And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.
It's interesting too that the Spirit would be poured out on "servants" and "handmaids". In other words these people were already followers of Christ i.e. believers.
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05-29-2007, 01:02 AM
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Simon saw something that led him believe the Samaritans received the Holy Spirit. There was some visible sign.
18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money,
Philip preached:
5 Then Philip went down to the city of Samaria, and preached Christ unto them.
12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
14 Now when the apostles which were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent unto them Peter and John:
What makes you think what Philip preached was any different than what Peter preached on the day of Pentecost in Acts 2? |
He saw miracles and wonders ... and the power of God ... nothing audible ... no sounds .... as in Acts 2
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