But, Pressing & Luke, we only know that those things were written as being said, but we do not know if Jesus or Paul actually said any of them. See http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...ad.php?t=46176 (Continuing the devil's advocate thought)
If "judging" involves using scripture to determine what's sinful and what's not, then I'm guilty. Scripture condemns homosexuality in both the Old and New Testaments and since I DO view scripture as the inspired Word of God, profitable for doctrine...and instruction in righteousness, then I defer to what it says on any subject. Do I feel compassion for people struggling with homosexuality? Yes. Does that mean I'm not going to say that homosexuality is a sin? No, no sooner than I would stop saying that adultery, lying or stealing is a sin.
Personally, I'm a bit tired of people acting like homosexuality is "special." It's not. It's a sin just like lying is a sin, stealing is a sin, murder is a sin, adultery is a sin, etc. People are born with their human nature which means the ability and propensity to sin in a variety of ways is built into their very nature. That doesn't make it okay in God's eyes. Adam and Eve were created with the ability to choose wrong, and God still considered their act disobedience. He didn't excuse it because it was part of their "nature."
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
Ok, so I'm wasting time on Facebook, and It's telling me to join various groups, one of which is an Apostolic Group, curious as to why it would tell me that, I clink on it, and it turns out that I have friends who are in the group. Anyway, the group calls itself "One God Apostolic Pentecostals" and describes itself as such:
Really??? 1st one God who is Jesus, 2nd Traditional Marriage, followed by baptism, tongues and separation....
I don't know why, but this truly truly shocked me. What's will they add next? Hating Obamacare?
It's one thing to have a conviction, but another completely to define yourself (and others) by your conviction. And to actually make it 2nd, like your stance on gay marriage is more important in the definition of an Apostolic Christian, then baptism or the Holy Ghost.
I feel strangely disappointed in...I don't know...whoever wrote the list, or affirmed it....or something.....I don't know it just makes me sad.
hahaha! well I do hate obamacare....
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I'd like to see Christians working on their fourth marriage rallying against divorce.
or something. i'd like to see Christians getting over it, and recognizing tempests in teacups, and non-issues. and distractions meant to keep them from real discussions. yikes.
Recently, a gay man from the church I attend passed away. Everyone knew of his lifestyle, and he and his partner were often at church. While their lifestyle wasn't embraced, he was a friend to many including myself, and many were also his friend. Condolences were made to his partner, and many will miss him. His funeral was held at church just before the Wednesday evening service. No judgement. God can do that for Himself.
Recently, a gay man from the church I attend passed away. Everyone knew of his lifestyle, and he and his partner were often at church. While their lifestyle wasn't embraced, he was a friend to many including myself, and many were also his friend. Condolences were made to his partner, and many will miss him. His funeral was held at church just before the Wednesday evening service. No judgement. God can do that for Himself.
Passing the buck to God when the bible speaks more clearly on homesexuality than on almost any other topic is wrong. Your God's messenger, tell others what God has said. Tell them to follow Christ AND to turn away from their sins. That's what we are called to do. We don't have to be beligerent about it. We don't have to shout you are going to hell over and over again. But we do need to be truthful and honest about what the good book says, especially about the things its crystal clear on.
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