Islamic Prayers at the Vatican

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Just saying: The pope supports the koran.

The pope is known to be a peace maker...

[shazeep]

Originally Posted by Dordrecht

Just saying: The pope supports the koran.

hmm well i like the pope about as much as i'm pretty sure you like the Qur'an...but i wonder how much false flag is embedded here? the RCC is looking pretty dismal at the moment, let's have the pope 'support' the Qur'an? just to denigrate It? Don't know.

[Luke]

allah is not the name of the God of the Bible (which also happens to be my God)? allah was the name of one of three hundred and sixty idol gods worshipped in the Kaa'ba. To see that the God of the Bible and allah are not the same all one must do is ask three simple questions:

1. Was Jesus the Son of God?

2. Did Jesus die on the cross?

3. Was Isaac the Promised son to Abraham and Sarah?

Simpply compare their yes and no answers to the Bible and you will have your answer.

There is a beign who goes by the name allah that claims to be a god and is worshipped as a god but according to the Apostle Paul this bieng is a demon that will one day bow before Jesus and declare Him to be Lord!

[Norman]

Some people say "do not judge," but Jesus also said "Beware of false prophets." How can we beware of them if we can't identify them? There are different ways of judging. In another place Jesus said we should judge with a righteous judgment.

[shazeep]

"...and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears"
You will know them by their fruit

[Revelationist]

Originally Posted by Luke

allah is not the name of the God of the Bible (which also happens to be my God)? allah was the name of one of three hundred and sixty idol gods worshipped in the Kaa'ba. To see that the God of the Bible and allah are not the same all one must do is ask three simple questions:

1. Was Jesus the Son of God?

2. Did Jesus die on the cross?

3. Was Isaac the Promised son to Abraham and Sarah?

Simpply compare their yes and no answers to the Bible and you will have your answer.

There is a beign who goes by the name allah that claims to be a god and is worshipped as a god but according to the Apostle Paul this bieng is a demon that will one day bow before Jesus and declare Him to be Lord!

Allah (English pronunciation: /ˈælə/ or /ˈɑːlə/; Arabic: الله‎ Allāh, IPA: [ʔalˤˈlˤɑːh] ( )) is the Arabic word for God (al ilāh, iliterally "the God"). The word has cognates in other Semitic languages, including Alah in Aramaic, ʾĒl in Canaanite and Elohim in Hebrew.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Norman

Some people say "do not judge," but Jesus also said "Beware of false prophets." How can we beware of them if we can't identify them? There are different ways of judging. In another place Jesus said we should judge with a righteous judgment.

You my friend are onto something profound. Most people use the phrase "do not judge" to mean "be nice".

[shazeep]

i did a study on Judgement, and i think the forbidden kind will always come with some accompanying behavior; mocking, belittling, etc. We of course must make personal judgements, that apply to ourselves.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by Norman

Some people say "do not judge," but Jesus also said "Beware of false prophets." How can we beware of them if we can't identify them? There are different ways of judging. In another place Jesus said we should judge with a righteous judgment.

[Dordrecht]

Originally Posted by shazeep

i did a study on Judgement, and i think the forbidden kind will always come with some accompanying behavior; mocking, belittling, etc. We of course must make personal judgements, that apply to ourselves.

i also did a study where it said "You shall know them by their fruits"

It should tell you something when so called leaders start to worship false religions.

About JUDGING:

Borrowing characters from C. S. Lewis, imagine this dialogue between a junior demon named Wormwood and his wicked uncle Screwtape. This fiendish exchange could have occurred a century ago:

Wormwood: Believers have so many weapons at their disposal. It is difficult to neutralize them. It takes a huge effort just to slow the work of a single Christian.

Screwtape: Your one-on-one approach is inefficient. This is the age of Madison Avenue and mass marketing. If you can undermine their whole group at once, then you’ve accomplished something.

Wormwood: Unfortunately, I’m not highly productive. In the time it takes me to frustrate one believer, I could tempt a dozen heathens.

Screwtape: Don’t lose heart, Wormwood. We are imple..menting a plan to impair the whole Church with a single ploy.

Wormwood: I don’t see how that will be possible. I see Christians dedicated to warning others about hell. It’s all I can do just to get one of them distracted for a short time.

Screwtape: We are going to use their Leader’s own words.

Wormwood: No! Please don’t. Don’t even joke about using His words. I can’t take it.

Screwtape: If you’re ever going to grow up to be an effec..tive demon, you’re going to have to learn to use the Enemy’s words against Him.

Wormwood: It just seems so dangerous. Which words are you going to use?

Screwtape: “Judge not!”

Wormwood: I don’t understand why He would tell them not to judge. That’s confusing. He commanded His followers to rebuke, admonish, and judge hundreds of times in His Book. And that’s what they’re out there
doing. And I might add, it’s causing me grief.

Screwtape: When their Leader said those words, He was speaking to hypocrites. “Judge not… you hypocrite,” as He said later in the same paragraph.

Wormwood: Yeah, but how are we going to use “Judge not” to neutralize the whole Church?

Screwtape: We’re going to get them to ignore the fact that He was talking to hypocrites. He said that hypocrites should not judge, at least not until they stop doing the wrong deed themselves. But we’re going to make them think none of them should judge, ever.

Wormwood: That’s bril..liant… if you can pull it off, that is. I mean, if we can get them to stop judging, then they won’t rebuke the wicked. And they won’t be able to admonish those who are sexually immoral.

Screwtape: It is even more brilliant than you realize. If we can seduce Christians into fol..lowing the instructions for hypo..crites, we will turn them into hypocrites. It’s like government workers who follow foolish rules so precisely they are transformed from human beings into bureau..crats; drones who mindlessly dis..pense red tape regardless of the misfortune they cause. The slave who willingly obeys his master, begins to conform to the master. If believers willingly submit to an instruction for hypocrites, they will conform to hypocrisy. Eventually, with a little evil luck, we might stop them from con..fronting unbelievers altogether because, as you know Worm..wood, to confront requires judg..ing. And if they don’t judge un..believers, they are hypocrites, professing the Gospel but deny..ing its power.

Wormwood: Ha, ha. I’m excited. When do we start?

Screwtape: Everything is underway already. Just do your part.

Wormwood: And that is…?

Screwtape: Make sure your targets read as little of the Book as possible. Don’t get too wor..ried if they stick to their favorite twenty cliché verses. But make sure they remain ignorant of most of the Word.

Wormwood: Master, you are brilliant.

Screwtape: You can call me Master if you want, but don’t let the boss hear you.

So much about NOT judging.