Deep Apostolic Teachers?

[Sean]

I know this is a big joke to all of you tithe teachers, but the reality is....when you die, you will go to hell. The Lord does not give folks the holy Ghost to vindicate their beliefs, but to lead them out of false doctrine. If you dont see it now, the Lord will not allow you into heaven for teaching your heresy. I have noticed that there is NO rebuttal on your part, just scoffing. That is a sign of your false doctrine being acknowledged by yourselves. You know that tithing is false doctrine and you just dont care. This is not about me....this is going to cost you eternity without God.

You guys have done business with Satan all of your Christian lives and whenever you die, you will follow him to a place of torment.


There is no place for heretical teachers in heaven. You better fix it while you are on earth.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Sean

I know this is a big joke to all of you tithe teachers, but the reality is....when you die, you will go to hell. The Lord does not give folks the holy Ghost to vindicate their beliefs, but to lead them out of false doctrine. If you dont see it now, the Lord will not allow you into heaven for teaching your heresy. I have noticed that there is NO rebuttal on your part, just scoffing. That is a sign of your false doctrine being acknowledged by yourselves. You know that tithing is false doctrine and you just dont care. This is not about me....this is going to cost you eternity without God.

You guys have done business with Satan all of your Christian lives and whenever you die, you will follow him to a place of torment.


There is no place for heretical teachers in heaven. You better fix it while you are on earth.

Sean, my beloved brother, while I have no desire to minimize your belief that compulsory tithing is not an integral element of God's covenant of grace, nevertheless I believe it needful to remind you of these words of admonition:

"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things" (see Romans 2:1, KJV).

I reference this particular scriptural passage as a basis for saying this to you:

Unless you have already attained a state of absolute "perfection" in your efforts to "walk" upright in "righteousness" and "holiness" before and with God (and if you're truly honest, then you must admit, as I, that we're just not quite there yet), then I would suggest that you exercise caution, considering your own self and your short-comings before electing to condemn the actions of others with which you might not agree. In this regards I would remind you of our Lord's admonition concerning such:

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye" (see Matthew 7:3-5, KJV).

It is possible to express one's disagreement about a specific aspect of a matter in a way that does not "come across" as condemnation, or appear to present oneself as being the judge of others whose beliefs and actions we may not agree with.

Therefore it is with a profound sense of sadness that I feel compelled to say to you, and this publicly, but with sincerity and loving-kindness ...

Your comments so far concerning "tithing," especially your opposition thereto, has not served to present yourself to others as one who emulates the "righteousness" of God, for even by His own admission, He did not manifest Himself to mankind to condemn, but to reconcile us to Himself.

I encourage you to think on these things.

Just saying

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Lafon

Sean, my beloved brother, while I have no desire to minimize your belief that compulsory tithing is not an integral element of God's covenant of grace, nevertheless I believe it needful to remind you of these words of admonition:

"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things" (see Romans 2:1, KJV).

I reference this particular scriptural passage as a basis for saying this to you:

Unless you have already attained a state of absolute "perfection" in your efforts to "walk" upright in "righteousness" and "holiness" before and with God (and if you're truly honest, then you must admit, as I, that we're just not quite there yet), then I would suggest that you exercise caution, considering your own self and your short-comings before electing to condemn the actions of others with which you might not agree. In this regards I would remind you of our Lord's admonition concerning such:

"And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and behold, a beam is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye" (see Matthew 7:3-5, KJV).

It is possible to express one's disagreement about a specific aspect of a matter in a way that does not "come across" as condemnation, or appear to present oneself as being the judge of others whose beliefs and actions we may not agree with.

Therefore it is with a profound sense of sadness that I feel compelled to say to you, and this publicly, but with sincerity and loving-kindness ...

Your comments so far concerning "tithing," especially your opposition thereto, has not served to present yourself to others as one who emulates the "righteousness" of God, for even by His own admission, He did not manifest Himself to mankind to condemn, but to reconcile us to Himself.

I encourage you to think on these things.

Just saying

Brother, your words are well taken here.

I will tone it down, but I needed to let folks see that there is NO DEBATE regarding the tithing issue. It is a completely man made philosophy that has kept folks out of the kingdom of God and has greatly hindered those that are trying to be saved. Thats the bottom line.

I realize they will never change, but I want the next generation to see these guys miserably fail to make their case and give them the tools to abandon this heresy.

If we can leave anything to our children, the most important thing is truth.

[Steve Epley]

I guess Jesus goes to hell for telling folks they should pay their tithes? Jesus will be what makes it heaven for me.

[Steve Epley]

By the way I have not engaged in a serious discussion here because I do not feel these guys are capable of having a serious discussion. Their depth could be measured in a thimble and have room for a bowling ball. Just saying.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

I guess Jesus goes to hell for telling folks they should pay their tithes? Jesus will be what makes it heaven for me.

Jesus also told a man healed of leprosy to show himself to the priest. Jesus also saved a thief on the cross. All during the period of time wherein He spoke of tithing. What do all of these things have in common? They were BEFORE Pentecost. Therefore, they were before the commissioning of the NT church and can be classified as having been said under the Old Covenant.

[FlamingZword]

Originally Posted by Sean

Brother, your words are well taken here.

I will tone it down, but I needed to let folks see that there is NO DEBATE regarding the tithing issue. It is a completely man made philosophy that has kept folks out of the kingdom of God and has greatly hindered those that are trying to be saved. Thats the bottom line.

I realize they will never change, but I want the next generation to see these guys miserably fail to make their case and give them the tools to abandon this heresy.

If we can leave anything to our children, the most important thing is truth.

Nice that you tone it down, but I need to let folks see that there is PLENTY OF DEBATE regarding the tithing issue. It is a completely biblical made philosophy that has kept those who would rob God out of the kingdom of God and has greatly contributed to the salvation of those who are trying to be saved. That's the bottom line.

I realize that you will perhaps never change, but I want the next generation to see that those who opposed tithing failed miserably to make their case and give the tools to combat this misinterpretation of the word of God.

If we can leave anything to our children, the most important thing is truth.

I have already used Biblical texts to defend that tithing is a Christian precept, you have simply refused my Bible based arguments.

And no I do not wish your death, harm or that something evil will happen to you just because you happened to disagree with me.

I still only wish you to have a long and prosperous life, and that you will make it into the kingdom of heaven.
Wishing you showers of blessings upon your life.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

Brother, your words are well taken here.

I will tone it down, but I needed to let folks see that there is NO DEBATE regarding the tithing issue. It is a completely man made philosophy that has kept folks out of the kingdom of God and has greatly hindered those that are trying to be saved. Thats the bottom line.

I realize they will never change, but I want the next generation to see these guys miserably fail to make their case and give them the tools to abandon this heresy.

If we can leave anything to our children, the most important thing is truth.

Pay your tithes you cheap skate.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Pay your tithes you cheap skate.

You ain't right. lol

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Sean

Brother, your words are well taken here.

I will tone it down, but I needed to let folks see that there is NO DEBATE regarding the tithing issue. It is a completely man made philosophy that has kept folks out of the kingdom of God and has greatly hindered those that are trying to be saved. Thats the bottom line.

I realize they will never change, but I want the next generation to see these guys miserably fail to make their case and give them the tools to abandon this heresy.

If we can leave anything to our children, the most important thing is truth.

Sorry if my response is after the fact. I didn't mean to beat you up with any overkill. I responded before I had read the previous admonitions presented to you. Love you bro!