Deep Apostolic Teachers?

[houston]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

I misspelled his name because I misspelled his name. So, you misspelled his name because you wanted to bring forward some encrypted message?

da Vinci code

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Lafon

LOL ... Happy that you caught that!

I intentionally mis-spelled his name, and for this reason:

Seeing that, IMHO, his position concerning "soul sleep" is amiss, and that as such he, being a teacher in several Bible schools, has elected, of his own volition, to take upon himself the burden of indoctrinating many new converts in the elementary principles of the doctrine of Christ, then I am persuaded he fits the "mold" of that man whom our Lord referenced when He said,

"It is impossible but that offences will come: but woe unto him, through whom they come! It were better for him that a millstone wee hanged about his neck, and he cast into the SEA, than that he should offend one of these little ones" (Luke 17:1-2, KJV).

Did you get it? "SEA," for that should be his "grave" for placing an "hindrance, a stumbling-block" in the pathway of God's little "lambs" as they seek to "grow in grace and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ" by teaching them that there is no such thing as "soul sleep"!

It is truly pitiful to think young men and women go off to some Bible College and pay thousands of dollars to be taught heresy.

[shazeep]

yup. I'll postulate that everyone will have to lose the doctrines in order to get their secret name...

Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

It is truly pitiful to think young men and women go off to some Bible College and pay thousands of dollars to be taught heresy.

in that vein, I'm kind of surprised that you would seek for expanded knowledge in your own backyard, so to speak? Why limit yourself to _____________ teachers? Especially 'Apostolic,' which wadr must be viewed as at least quite inbred at this point?

[Sister Alvear]

Who may be a deep teacher in one man's eyes may be shallow in another's...

[Truthseeker]

No such thing as soul sleep for a Christian that has been made alive.

[Lafon]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

No such thing as soul sleep for a Christian that has been made alive.

"Made alive" when? I assume that you mean "in the here & now."

If what you state be true (however, I note that you offer NO scriptural support for your claim), then who, and what title do you ascribe to those whom Paul explicitly described as being "asleep" when Jesus Christ returns? (see I Thessalonians 4:13-15)

Were the souls of those "saints which slept" and were "awakened" (inferred) that are described in Matthew 27:52-53, NOT considered to be "Christians" also, seeing they were (apparently) Old Testaments saints who believed in Christ Jesus, that is, the "promised Messiah," but experienced death prior to His coming?

Did not David state it "plain and clearly" in the words of Psalm 13:3 that the soul will "sleep the sleep of death"?

[Sean]

He was the main one that ruined our soul winning efforts, teacher training and ran me trough the coals to other ministers over the tithing issue. I have seen several die in the space of 2 years after confronting them with this heresy.

Tithing is an "assault" on the body of Christ. Those that "knowingly" teach it will be judged.

8 And here men that die receive tithes....this is the reward they will get for unscriptually fleecing the body of Christ.


It is 2014, the Lord Jesus is DONE with the tithe doctrine among His church. He is going to begin to root out the false teachers by any means necessary to purify his saints and make the church an easy place for souls to find rest.....WHATEVER IT TAKES!

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Sean

He was the main one that ruined our soul winning efforts, teacher training and ran me trough the coals to other ministers over the tithing issue. I have seen several die in the space of 2 years after confronting them with this heresy.

Tithing is an "assault" on the body of Christ. Those that "knowingly" teach it will be judged.

8 And here men that die receive tithes....this is the reward they will get for unscriptually fleecing the body of Christ.


It is 2014, the Lord Jesus is DONE with the tithe doctrine among His church. He is going to begin to root out the false teachers by any means necessary to purify his saints and make the church an easy place for souls to find rest.....WHATEVER IT TAKES!

Sean are you saying that anyone who comes against you will die in the space of two years?

[Sean]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Sean are you saying that anyone who comes against you will die in the space of two years?

The Lord has shown me to stand up against the tithing issue in the church as the main heresy that He is sick of. This particular man rose up against me and got me "black listed" in a revival situation we were having. Other situations have occurred similarly in the 2 year span.

I have been praying for years for the Lord to remove whoever it is that knowingly teaches this heresy.

The issue here is tithing, it is the #1 thing on the list of what the Lord Jesus hates taught in the churches.

I would not want to be on the tithe teachers side in the days we live in now.

Never underestimate what the Lord is doing. That is the biggest mistake we can make.

[bishoph]

Originally Posted by Sean

The Lord has shown me to stand up against the tithing issue in the church as the main heresy that He is sick of. This particular man rose up against me and got me "black listed" in a revival situation we were having. Other situations have occurred similarly in the 2 year span.

I have been praying for years for the Lord to remove whoever it is that knowingly teaches this heresy.

The issue here is tithing, it is the #1 thing on the list of what the Lord Jesus hates taught in the churches.

I would not want to be on the tithe teachers side in the days we live in now.

Never underestimate what the Lord is doing. That is the biggest mistake we can make.

Millions of souls lost and need to hear the gospel, yet you think God's number one agenda item is to rid the church of this "main heresy." I think God probably shakes his head in amazement at what he gets blamed for. Win the lost, tell people about HIS love and HIS grace, warn them of judgement to come and compel them to know Christ.

Use your non-tithe monies/offerings to reach the lost and then you MIGHT have an opportunity to address the error of the money grubbing preachers......good grief!!!!