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12-06-2014, 05:49 PM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Because flesh doesn't do anything. Persons do things.
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If a mass of flesh was "alive" and no consciousness present, and no person, then flesh can indeed be said to die. Just ask a doctor. Flesh has a heart that beats and pumps blood and supplies breath of life to the body so it can live. Of course flesh can be said to die aside from the person.
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12-07-2014, 12:35 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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If a mass of flesh was "alive" and no consciousness present, and no person, then flesh can indeed be said to die. Just ask a doctor. Flesh has a heart that beats and pumps blood and supplies breath of life to the body so it can live. Of course flesh can be said to die aside from the person.
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No blume, a person has a heart that pumps blood and supplies breath of life to the body so he can live. Consciousness is not the test for a person, else the man Jesus and the God Jesus are 2 different persons.
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12-07-2014, 08:08 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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No blume, a person has a heart that pumps blood and supplies breath of life to the body so he can live. Consciousness is not the test for a person, else the man Jesus and the God Jesus are 2 different persons.
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Even machines can keep a body "alive", with no person present.
Sorry, your words just don';t match the facts.
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12-06-2014, 03:30 AM
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I think so many never really grasped oneness. They think they did, but it seems they didn't.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
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12-07-2014, 01:54 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
hmm...
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12-07-2014, 02:38 AM
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Go Dodgers!
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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hmm...
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Name that tune! 
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- Every sinner must repent of their sins.
- That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
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12-07-2014, 03:40 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Either this discussion says something pretty serious about the current (and future) state of Oneness Pentecostalism... or it says something about AFF ...
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12-07-2014, 03:44 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
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Either this discussion says something pretty serious about the current (and future) state of Oneness Pentecostalism... or it says something about AFF ...
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AFF is the minority I'm sure. Internet forums are usually small vocal minorities 
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12-08-2014, 12:34 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Btw, the "different uses" stem from the English language as the word "God" means either "supreme Being" or as a personal name of that Supreme Being. The phrase "as God" means YHVH considered as the supreme being, the eternal Spirit (ie in reference to the divine nature). "As man" refers to YHVH in reference to his incarnation in human nature as a genuine human being.
It's pretty simple, actually: YHVH became human, and that human died. Since that human is YHVH, then YHVH died. The qualification "he died as man not as God" eliminates any need for wondering "where was God?" during the three days and nights in the tomb.
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12-08-2014, 12:34 AM
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Re: Apostolic But Not Believing Jesus is The Fathe
Btw, the "different uses" stem from the English language as the word "God" means either "supreme Being" or as a personal name of that Supreme Being. The phrase "as God" means YHVH considered as the supreme being, the eternal Spirit (ie in reference to the divine nature). "As man" refers to YHVH in reference to his incarnation in human nature as a genuine human being.
It's pretty simple, actually: YHVH became human, and that human died. Since that human is YHVH, then YHVH died. The qualification "he died as man not as God" eliminates any need for wondering "where was God?" during the three days and nights in the tomb.
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