Why I Am A Futurist - Page 35

thephnxman · #1 03-01-2015, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

i would agree that at one time Rome repped Mystery Babylon, yes; but no more, imo.

To those who believe that all prophecies were fulfilled in 70 AD, then there can
be no Babylon! To them, most, if not all, of Revelations is irrelevant. Is that what you mean?

shazeep · #2 03-01-2015, 12:31 PM

hmm, well, i'm using "Babylon" as a metaphor for satan's worldly organization; as i assume most people do. Yet i believe that quite a few prophecies were fulfilled in 70 ad...so, not sure how to answer that. satan pretty obviously still has worldly control, i think.

mfblume · #3 03-01-2015, 07:03 PM

Jesus told us Babylon was old jerusalem. Matt. 23:35 & Rev 18:24. No other city was called a harlot in scripture if we let bible interpret bible. See Revelation's Old Testament counterpart' mirror and parallel... Ezekiel... Especially chapter 16.

Sean · #4 03-01-2015, 07:04 PM

Oh

shazeep · #5 03-01-2015, 07:05 PM

another valid reflection, by way of condemnation, imo, yes. So we begin to see that MB is not a place, but a condition.

Sean · #6 03-01-2015, 07:08 PM

Nah, its' Rome.(headquarters of false Christianity(Christian Whore), deceiving 1.1 billion Catholics(today) and murderers of millions of protestants)

mfblume · #7 03-01-2015, 07:19 PM

I believe JESUS.

shazeep · #8 03-01-2015, 07:25 PM

ha well, me too; but let's admit that Babylon was once...Babylon; then perhaps we might get to (by...dragging...ourselves...oh...so...slowly...) some deeper, essential truth.

mfblume · #9 03-01-2015, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by shazeep

ha well, me too; but let's admit that Babylon was once...Babylon; then perhaps we might get to (by...dragging...ourselves...oh...so...slowly...) some deeper, essential truth.

Everything in Revelation is from a picture in the Old Testament that grants insight into what the rest of the New Testament already stated in plain terms. I think. For example, JESUS is the lamb whose blood redeems. That is from Passover. It intensifies the purpose of his sacrifice..

Bowas · #10 03-01-2015, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

Everything in Revelation is from a picture in the Old Testament that grants insight into what the rest of the New Testament already stated in plain terms. I think. For example, JESUS is the lamb whose blood redeems. That is from Passover. It intensifies the purpose of his sacrifice..

I taught Sunday School this morning and brought out that the book of Revelation has 404 verses, of which, 278 of them make a direct reference to the Old Testament and there are over 800 allusions or indirect references to the Old Testament as well!

And that there are 7958 verses in the New Testament and there are upwards of 4105 quotations and references to the Old Testament.

By us not incorporating the Old Testament into our conclusions, we will not totally understand what is being conveyed.

I then presented the "living waters" scriptures from the Old Testament, Zech. 14:8, into the New Testament by what Jesus said in John 4:7-14 and 7:37-39, tied it into the day of Pentecost and capped it with the same reference found in Revelation 21:6.

I had many people come up to me afterwards and said they never realized that before and thanked me for showing them, in my example, how to use the Bible to confirm the Bible.