McMinnville pastor accused in suit of Defamation

[Pneuman]

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

I know the retired couple you mention as well at the daughter. It was sad how he treated and elder just because of the brand he preached for.
Bill and Matt will receive judgement for those that left poisoned. I am now in contact with a lot of "backsliders" we were forbidden to talk to. Now I know why. There are 2 sides to every story and Bill didn't want us to know the other side. One got booted for not paying 10% and the mandatory 5% offering.
Notice my avatar is their tithe envelope. 10% and 5% right off the top. Required to make it to heaven. If you don't pay then you owe back before you can be right. That is preached.
I am so glad I got booted. Bill and Matt are backsliders preaching false doctrine. So I would not consider them brothers let alone true believers.
Just my 4 cents. It was around 2002 when he quit the UPCI. Took his ball and went home.
They have 3 of the best in Oregon for attorneys. The funny thing about that is they are paying a lot to defend but Jim has pockets as well. God is good. They will think twice about bashing someone else again.

Blessings to you my friend! I know what you went through and pray that God completes your healing. The kind of abuse that happens in that church, and many others, can scar a person for life. I hope have or can let it go and find your place in the kingdom! You mention that you travel over an hour to another church ... do you mind if I ask where you attend now? We are at the City Bible Church 217 campus.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pneuman

Blessings to you my friend! I know what you went through and pray that God completes your healing. The kind of abuse that happens in that church, and many others, can scar a person for life. I hope have or can let it go and find your place in the kingdom! You mention that you travel over an hour to another church ... do you mind if I ask where you attend now? We are at the City Bible Church 217 campus.

You guys are Trinitarians.

I don't think HH is that offended.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You guys are Trinitarians.

I don't think HH is that offended.

All of this talk about, forgiveness, towards your brother, yet your post don't show the same forgiveness you expect HH to give. All I see is you defending not only a bad pastor, but the very position you aspire to.

Your comment about the early church not having leadership problems, because the apostles just went around and kicked butt. Only shows that you refuse to accept that the leadership of the early church did work together as servants but you think they welded control.

The more these debates go the more I see the ungodly spirits come out. Your statement "you guys are trinitarians" speaks volumes to me.

[Holy Ghost HH]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You guys are Trinitarians.

I don't think HH is that offended.

Wow, you just past judgment without even knowing. I just went to their Web page. They believe in One God. They Baptize in Jesus name. Maybe you went to their page as well and saw happy families without your type of standards.
Dont compair yourselves amongst yourselves is a scripture that isn't obeyed.
Small little legalist world of OP.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

I know the retired couple you mention as well at the daughter. It was sad how he treated and elder just because of the brand he preached for.
Bill and Matt will receive judgement for those that left poisoned. I am now in contact with a lot of "backsliders" we were forbidden to talk to. Now I know why. There are 2 sides to every story and Bill didn't want us to know the other side. One got booted for not paying 10% and the mandatory 5% offering.
Notice my avatar is their tithe envelope. 10% and 5% right off the top. Required to make it to heaven. If you don't pay then you owe back before you can be right. That is preached.
I am so glad I got booted. Bill and Matt are backsliders preaching false doctrine. So I would not consider them brothers let alone true believers.
Just my 4 cents. It was around 2002 when he quit the UPCI. Took his ball and went home.
They have 3 of the best in Oregon for attorneys. The funny thing about that is they are paying a lot to defend but Jim has pockets as well. God is good. They will think twice about bashing someone else again.

Took His Ball and Went Home?

With all your sniveling on this forum?

Who are YOU kidding.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

There are 2 sides to every story

We notice how much the other side (William Davies and his son Matthew Davies) has posted in this thread. Hey, HH why don't you send the Davies this thread (especially James Goings' contribution to it?) I bet they, and their lawyers would like to peruse its' contents.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

Notice my avatar is their tithe envelope. 10% and 5% right off the top.

That's par for the course, because that's the only reason you are here.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

Required to make it to heaven. If you don't pay then you owe back before you can be right.

But being bitter is a shortcut?

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

I am so glad I got booted.

No your not.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

Bill and Matt are backsliders preaching false doctrine.

Wow, sounds familiar!

Hello Brother Reckart.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

So I would not consider them brothers let alone true believers.

I think we got you loud and clear on that one HH.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

Just my 4 cents.

No, more like your 950,000.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

It was around 2002 when he quit the UPCI. Took his ball and went home.

And we see that you are the bigger kid in the sandbox.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

They have 3 of the best in Oregon for attorneys. The funny thing about that is they are paying a lot to defend but Jim has pockets as well.

Soon to be 950,000 pockets!

Hey when you all win the 950,000 you should turn it all into pennies so you can all roll around in it.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

but Jim has pockets as well. God is good.

Good God from Zion!

Wow, you had no problem with typing this?

Wow.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

They will think twice about bashing someone else again.

[Holy Ghost HH]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

We notice how much the other side (William Davies and his son Matthew Davies) has posted in this thread. Hey, HH why don't you send the Davies this thread (especially James Goings' contribution to it?) I bet they, and their lawyers would like to peruse its' contents.




That's par for the course, because that's the only reason you are here.




But being bitter is a shortcut?



No your not.



Wow, sounds familiar!

Hello Brother Reckart.



I think we got you loud and clear on that one HH.



No, more like your 950,000.




And we see that you are the bigger kid in the sandbox.



Soon to be 950,000 pockets!

Hey when you all win the 950,000 you should turn it all into pennies so you can all roll around in it.



Good God from Zion!

Wow, you had no problem with typing this?

Wow.

Really, I couldn't care less if Bill reads this thread and by all accounts most likely has.

As for you opinion on any of this matter it means nothing. You seem to be a ministerial apologist anyway. You lack experiance in a matter such as this. Almost ignerant.
You and bill would get along well I bet.
So enjoy the little world you live in. I am free to enjoy the big world of OP that was denied me for years.
As for the church I Go to I'll pm you. Bill has already been bashing the preacher for starting a church here in McMinnville. Hahahah I love it.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

Really, I couldn't care less if Bill reads this thread and by all accounts most likely has.

Not Bill, his lawyers. Does James Goings lawyers know that he came on a public forum (while he is suing for defamation) to post in a thread that is nothing but defaming the defendants in a court case that they are working on? I mean, how old are you people?

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

As for you opinion on any of this matter it means nothing.

No doubt about that.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

You seem to be a ministerial apologist anyway. You lack experiance in a matter such as this. Almost ignerant.

I have been there, and done that, but I just don't bleed all over everyone.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

You and bill would get along well I bet.

Probably not.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

So enjoy the little world you live in.

I do.

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

I am free to enjoy the big world of OP that was denied me for years.

I have heard this from Charismatics, Hindus, Mormons, divorced couples, people leaving behind a one life to make a life change. It is like someone who was on drugs since they were a teen, when they finally get off the drugs and addiction they start at the point where they became addicted. HH, my question would be why were you there in the first place?

Originally Posted by Holy Ghost HH

Bill has already been bashing the preacher for starting a church here in McMinnville. Hahahah I love it.

Really?

And I'm the bad guy?

Whatever.

[good samaritan]

So sad.

[Holy Ghost HH]

Thank you for sharing. It is sad that people are dangled over hell and deal they have no other OP church locally. Well that was until about 3 weeks ago. I travel 1.33 hours to attend a good church on Sunday and have a church being started every other Saturday by the same man of God.
As for why people stay? Well, family ties are hardest to break when dangeled over hell. You may think it is easy to break free but until you have been entangled like I was you cannot comprehend.
I was fresh in God when he split from UPCI and when 2008 hit and little matty started up is got even worse. I thought it was me. I know now looking back God has a lot more than that for me.
Everything being set aside I just want every OP reading this, live YOUR life that GOD gave you. Please don't Make others live yours as well. God deals with everyone of us in magnificent ways as individuals.
God has individual convictions and standards that we have to work out for our salvation.
God will lead everyone of us in HIS perfect plan as long as we love him.
Benihin has his walk, GodsD, has his, GoodS and Sean all have a love for God and his truth. All the other "requirements" are distractions to Hos purpose for our lives.
Again if you want to have your standards then by all means live in liberty doing them. Please don't use Your convictions to muzzle someone else and they tread out what God gave them to work on.
Is hope everyone prays for all and has a great night and morning.