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12-01-2015, 03:35 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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He created and then He provided the seed. He created the reproductive processes that continue life. We are looking at His Creation. We are a part of His Creation. However, He didn't CREATE us.
He CREATED Adam and Eve.
He gave them the knowledge and power to create.
He did not create you and me.
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Maybe, but what about the spirit?
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12-01-2015, 03:41 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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Maybe, but what about the spirit?
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I don't know.
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12-01-2015, 03:52 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
Does anyone ever find themselves looking at a situation, only to purposefully choose to look away from that situation because the existence of that situation drains your faith?
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12-01-2015, 04:27 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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Does anyone ever find themselves looking at a situation, only to purposefully choose to look away from that situation because the existence of that situation drains your faith?
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i don't believe that God usurps man's free will; ergo, the Hitlers of the world are manifest as the will of the people. Hitler was as much made by circumstance, as born, iow. He was elected because he reflected the people. But he had the same choices we have, and freely chose to be what he was. God did not "make him bad."
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12-01-2015, 04:29 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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i don't believe that God usurps man's free will; ergo, the Hitlers of the world are manifest as the will of the people. Hitler was as much made by circumstance, as born, iow. He was elected because he reflected the people. But he had the same choices we have, and freely chose to be what he was. God did not "make him bad."
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Did God know that sweet baby Adolf would do what he did when God created sweet baby Adolf?
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12-02-2015, 07:41 AM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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I don't know.
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What a refreshing post. 
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12-02-2015, 04:52 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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Thanks. 
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
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You don't get many posts like that these days it's kinda cool to see one.
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
God is omnipotent, so yes. The same as God knowing what you would do when He created you. Both you and Adolf are/were free to pursue your posterity, however. Adolf could have as easily become a missionary or whatever, should he have desired. His desire, or free will, led him in the direction it did.
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12-01-2015, 04:35 PM
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Re: I Don't Think God "Creates" Anything Any More
God doesn't tempt anyone with evil. Hitler was drawn away to deeper and deeper evil based on his own desires for evil.
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