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Old 06-05-2007, 04:27 PM
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Actually I know that they do take this into consideration somewhat in smaller companies. I've been told by our CFO that it is considered... as is age..
Age, should never be considered in hiring. Any company that practices age discrimination is violating the EEOC which is a crime. Anyone that believes a company is guilty of this form of discrimination should report it immediately.

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Old 06-05-2007, 04:34 PM
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Age, should never be considered in hiring. Any company that practices age discrimination is violating the EEOC which is a crime. Anyone that believes a company is guilty of this form of discrimination should report it immediately.

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well, of course it shouldn't be, but we all know that it happens in companies.
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:44 PM
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well, of course it shouldn't be, but we all know that it happens in companies.

Well I "know" it doesn't happen in mine and I have no sympathy for the company that does! Being "older" is not something a person can control. It is actually a wonderful part of life and should never be used to preclude someone from employment.

Obesity (over eating) and drug use, including tobacco and alcohol, is a controllable behavior.

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Old 06-05-2007, 10:13 PM
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To "discriminate?", against fat people? I'm really not sure that using that word is appropriate in this case. Making a decision not to hire someone because they are overweight, requires one to set a dividing line at best. Studies have shown that the overweight (by this I mean to say, obese and morbidly obese) is a serious health issue that can cost a company a considerable amount of money in health care. Not hiring a smoker, is a wise decision due to the health risk the individual has willingly placed themselves into by using tobacco. People are obese because they have no control over their food intake and do not exercise. Hence, they will have serious health problems as a result. Make no mistake, over eating and nicotine addiction are behaviors that are curable by simply stopping the destructive behavior!

To discriminate then, in my humble opinion, is to be very discerning before hiring someone who is unable to control their personal health and habits which could easily cost the company more than what the employee could ever give by their labor.

I realize my comments will likely set off a fire storm of debate but, as a personnel manager, there has to be a line drawn somewhere. I am required NOT to discriminate against anyone that falls within the Equal Employment Opportunity Act, but the obese and tobacco users are not a protected minority at this time.

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I understand where you are coming from and I agree with the principles you present, but how can you tell if someone is overweight because of overeating?
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I seem to recall a discussion about this a while back but I can't find it on AFF.

Are fat people discriminated against? Do they miss out on jobs and ministry opportunities because of their weight? If you had to choose between exact replicas of the same church - yet one church had a fat pastor and the other a stud muffin, would you choose the stud muffin solely based upon the other guy's obesity problem?

Are fat people paid less?
I don't care if someone is fat if they can hear from God.If the stud muffin cannot hear from God forget it.If the fat man cannot hear from God forget it.
Everyone struggles with some issue.The fat mans is just more evident.What is not evident is what worries me with some folks.lol.
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:11 PM
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I seem to recall a discussion about this a while back but I can't find it on AFF.

Are fat people discriminated against? Do they miss out on jobs and ministry opportunities because of their weight? If you had to choose between exact replicas of the same church - yet one church had a fat pastor and the other a stud muffin, would you choose the stud muffin solely based upon the other guy's obesity problem?

Are fat people paid less?
Neither...I'd look for the guy that is skinny as a rail...grayed hair at an early age.....
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Old 06-05-2007, 04:15 PM
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I seem to recall a discussion about this a while back but I can't find it on AFF.

Are fat people discriminated against? Do they miss out on jobs and ministry opportunities because of their weight? If you had to choose between exact replicas of the same church - yet one church had a fat pastor and the other a stud muffin, would you choose the stud muffin solely based upon the other guy's obesity problem?

Are fat people paid less?
Probably the one closer to my house.
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Old 06-05-2007, 05:34 PM
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I seem to recall a discussion about this a while back but I can't find it on AFF.

Are fat people discriminated against? Do they miss out on jobs and ministry opportunities because of their weight? If you had to choose between exact replicas of the same church - yet one church had a fat pastor and the other a stud muffin, would you choose the stud muffin solely based upon the other guy's obesity problem?

Are fat people paid less?
Yes they are, I work for an upper class golf resort, and they do not hire overweight people. In fact they go as far to tell the photography who take pictures for special events to cut out overweight people who may attend . Nor do they like to rent out units to people who are overweight, due to the stress they put on furnishings.
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Yes they are, I work for an upper class golf resort, and they do not hire overweight people. In fact they go as far to tell the photography who take pictures for special events to cut out overweight people who may attend . Nor do they like to rent out units to people who are overweight, due to the stress they put on furnishings.
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Yes I agree. Discriminating People Are Against Fat.
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