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Old 11-30-2016, 10:21 PM
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a person or animal that is born or grows with abnormal physical features.
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an unusual, unexpected natural phenomenon.
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I didn't make that term up Votive.

The term "freak of nature" is simply a way of describing someone born with abnormal physical features, whatever they may be, and not necessarily se*ual.

And I agree with you that we are all created by the Lord.
I know you didn't create the term. But I advise you, if ever you're in a crowd, and someone is there who has been born with some kind of deformity or abnormality, or tells you he or she is a hermaphrodite, please don't tell them you think they are a "freak of nature".

You will lose your witness and never get another chance to evangelize that person. To call someone a freak in this way would serve no better than to call a black person "colored". It will hurt just as much, and do as much psychological damage.
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And what of Sodom and Gomorrah? You cannot bury your head in the sand and ignore how God dealt with the sin that had taken over these two cities.

There have always been freaks of nature, however even with all that, there is still no definitive conclusion that one is born with a desire for the same sex. I personally believe it is a spirit of perversion that one gives into at some point in their life.

But one thing we do know is this. The way God dealt with a city full of homose*uals lets us know quite plainly, just how He feels about that sin.

(I use * in certain words so as to not draw in computer bots looking for those words)
Votive, you have taken this term and gone way overboard with the reaction to it. It is simply a means of describing someone who is born with atypical characteristics. Whatever you do, don't read any medical documentation recording such things, it would surely shock you, if this term is offensive to you, and I certainly did not mean it to be so.

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No. But they are born with a law of sin in their members that, when revives, slays them. That law of sin can be directed toward homosexuality.

KBTW was referring to godsdrummer's post about hermaphrodites. She was calling hermaphrodites "freaks of nature". I do not believe it to be very consistent with Christ-likeness to call someone born with additional, opposite sex genitalia a "freak of nature", when God is the author of life and is the cause of many disabilities, as He said in Exodus to Moses, and etc. David wasn't and isn't the only human God "knit together" in a mother's womb.
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I know you didn't create the term. But I advise you, if ever you're in a crowd, and someone is there who has been born with some kind of deformity or abnormality, or tells you he or she is a hermaphrodite, please don't tell them you think they are a "freak of nature".

You will lose your witness and never get another chance to evangelize that person. To call someone a freak in this way would serve no better than to call a black person "colored". It will hurt just as much, and do as much psychological damage.
What are you suggesting? That I would just walk up and call someone a freak of nature? I don't understand the overreaction I am getting from you at all. I surely would never do such a thing! smh
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Votive, you have taken this term and gone way overboard with the reaction to it. It is simply a means of describing someone who is born with atypical characteristics. Whatever you do, don't read any medical documentation recording such things, it would surely shock you, if this term is offensive to you, and I certainly did not mean it to be so.





What are you suggesting? That I would just walk up and call someone a freak of nature? I don't understand the overreaction I am getting from you at all. I surely would never do such a thing! smh
What I am saying, Sis, is that "freak of nature" finds itself a very hurtful, negative term as a descriptor for someone born with a deformity. Using it here to describe hermaphrodites and others doesn't get a pass just because you wouldn't use the term in public toward someone with a deformity.

I realize it may not seem such a striking issue for you. I am trying to raise your awareness of how such a term can come across.

What if one of our members here at AFF has an undisclosed deformity, or has a sibling hermaphrodite? Don't you suppose reading you use the phrase "freak of nature" to describe someone with these genetic conditions would hurt their feelings?

That's all I intend here. I hope you can see where I'm coming from.
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What I am saying, Sis, is that "freak of nature" finds itself a very hurtful, negative term as a descriptor for someone born with a deformity. Using it here to describe hermaphrodites and others doesn't get a pass just because you wouldn't use the term in public toward someone with a deformity.

I realize it may not seem such a striking issue for you. I am trying to raise your awareness of how such a term can come across.

What if one of our members here at AFF has an undisclosed deformity, or has a sibling hermaphrodite? Don't you suppose reading you use the phrase "freak of nature" to describe someone with these genetic conditions would hurt their feelings?

That's all I intend here. I hope you can see where I'm coming from.
I don't intend to hurt anyone's feelings. But whatever you do, don't read medical literature. Your feelings may never recover.

This discussion has gone beyond the attention it is due. I explained where the term came from, and you can't accept that it is a term to describe a wide range of physical abnormalities.
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