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[Scott Pitta]

Deut. 22:5 says nothing about military attire, crossdressing or modesty.

The issue is "mixing things"

Mixing things, both in Deut 22 and in the parallel passage in Leviticus chapter 19, are the central issue.

Do not mate different kinds of animals.

“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.

“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Lev. 19:19

Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled.

10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together.

11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together. Debt. 22:9

It is in this context of not mixing things we find Deut. 22:5. It is another example of things we do not mix.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Scott Pitta

Deut. 22:5 says nothing about military attire, crossdressing or modesty.

The issue is "mixing things"

Mixing things, both in Deut 22 and in the parallel passage in Leviticus chapter 19, are the central issue.

Do not mate different kinds of animals.

“‘Do not plant your field with two kinds of seed.

“‘Do not wear clothing woven of two kinds of material. Lev. 19:19

Do not plant two kinds of seed in your vineyard; if you do, not only the crops you plant but also the fruit of the vineyard will be defiled.

10 Do not plow with an ox and a donkey yoked together.

11 Do not wear clothes of wool and linen woven together. Debt. 22:9

It is in this context of not mixing things we find Deut. 22:5. It is another example of things we do not mix.

Scott?

Deuteronomy 22:5 is an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:11 isn't an abomination unto God. From verses 1-4 we are being told about how to conduct yourself with your neighbor, nothing about mixing. No mention about an abomination until we get to Deuteronomy 22:5 . In Deuteronomy 22:6 speaks about the attitude towards an innocent animal. Just like the honoring of mother and father will prolong your days, the same goes with treatment towards animals nesting. That is all about attitude, nothing about mixing, nothing about an abomination. Deuteronomy 22:8 "When you build a new house, you must build a railing around the edge of its flat roof. That way you will not be considered guilty of murder if someone falls from the roof. That is speaking of builders liability, nothing about mixing, no mention of it being an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:9 is agricultural advisement, no mention of an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:10 is advisement concerning livestock, no abomination unto God. Just more agricultural advisory warnings. Deuteronomy 22:11 has more to do with hygiene in hot climates, apparel which causes perspiration. Deuteronomy 22:12 instructs the Israelite to fashion their cloak with a religious memorial. Again, no abomination nothing about mixing. Deuteronomy 22:13-30 deals with legal issues with marriage, divorce, incest, and virgins. No abominations unto God, and nothing about mixing.

Deuteronomy 22:5 is about crossdressing.

Pants were worn by priests, by men, by soldiers. No women wearing pants. So pants were found in the Hebrew Men's dept in the Levitical Macy's.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Scott?

Deuteronomy 22:5 is an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:11 isn't an abomination unto God. From verses 1-4 we are being told about how to conduct yourself with your neighbor, nothing about mixing. No mention about an abomination until we get to Deuteronomy 22:5 . In Deuteronomy 22:6 speaks about the attitude towards an innocent animal. Just like the honoring of mother and father will prolong your days, the same goes with treatment towards animals nesting. That is all about attitude, nothing about mixing, nothing about an abomination. Deuteronomy 22:8 "When you build a new house, you must build a railing around the edge of its flat roof. That way you will not be considered guilty of murder if someone falls from the roof. That is speaking of builders liability, nothing about mixing, no mention of it being an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:9 is agricultural advisement, no mention of an abomination unto God. Deuteronomy 22:10 is advisement concerning livestock, no abomination unto God. Just more agricultural advisory warnings. Deuteronomy 22:11 has more to do with hygiene in hot climates, apparel which causes perspiration. Deuteronomy 22:12 instructs the Israelite to fashion their cloak with a religious memorial. Again, no abomination nothing about mixing. Deuteronomy 22:13-30 deals with legal issues with marriage, divorce, incest, and virgins. No abominations unto God, and nothing about mixing.

Deuteronomy 22:5 is about crossdressing.

Pants were worn by priests, by men, by soldiers. No women wearing pants. So pants were found in the Hebrew Men's dept in the Levitical Macy's.

for Scott Pitta.


Also Scott, which verse has been abrogated?

Leviticus 18:22

Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is ABOMINATION.

Leviticus 20:13

If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an ABOMINATION: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

Deuteronomy 22:5

The woman shall not wear that which pertaineth unto a man, neither shall a man put on a woman's garment: for all that do so are
ABOMINATION unto the LORD thy God.

Proverbs 6:16-19

These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an ABOMINATION unto him: A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

Proverbs 11:20

They that are of a froward heart are ABOMINATION to the LORD: but such as are upright in their way are his delight.

Proverbs 12:22

Lying lips are ABOMINATION to the LORD: but they that deal truly are his delight.

Proverbs 15:26

The thoughts of the wicked are an ABOMINATION to the LORD: but the words of the pure are pleasant words.


Proverbs 15:8

The sacrifice of the wicked is an ABOMINATION to the LORD: but the prayer of the upright is his delight.

Proverbs 16:5

Every one that is proud in heart is an ABOMINATION to the LORD: though hand join in hand, he shall not be unpunished.

Proverbs 17:15

He that justifieth the wicked, and he that condemneth the just, even they both are ABOMINATION to the LORD.

Proverbs 20:10

Divers weights, and divers measures, both of them are alike ABOMINATION to the LORD.

Proverbs 28:9

He that turneth away his ear from hearing the law, even his prayer shall be ABOMINATION.

[LOVE JESUS]

Enough is enough... Over 411 responses and over 6,000 views. Plus how many hurt feelings and insults?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS

Enough is enough... Over 411 responses and over 6,000 views. Plus how many hurt feelings and insults?

Whose feelings got hurt?

[LOVE JESUS]

I didn't get my feelings hurt by any means BUT I have seen insults against some of the posters and unless people are dead to their feelings, it would have to hurt. Some posters have been rude and I don't like that - not rude to me but to some of the posters who were explaining their view point. If they didn't get hurt - fine they are one tuff person. I think things need to be said in love and not demeaning to others.

Originally Posted by Esaias

Whose feelings got hurt?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by LOVE JESUS

I didn't get my feelings hurt by any means BUT I have seen insults against some of the posters and unless people are dead to their feelings, it would have to hurt. Some posters have been rude and I don't like that - not rude to me but to some of the posters who were explaining their view point. If they didn't get hurt - fine they are one tuff person. I think things need to be said in love and not demeaning to others.

Like Jason B said, anyone taking an internet forum so serious they get their feelings hurt, needs to sign off, permanently. That is very sobering advise on so many levels it isn't funny. Again, thumbs up JB.

[Raven]

My feelings aren't hurt but I can see where you're coming from. I used to frequent this forum daily and enjoyed the time spent but not so much anymore. It has become too easy to toss off barbed quips and comments because the person addressed is not physically present. Words are written that would probably never be spoken as one Christian to another if sitting across a dining table enjoying that fellowship. Some, on here, feel they have to address every posting and do it with overbearing vim and vigor. [ You know who you are! ]
I'm likely old enough to be a dad to many of you and probably a grandpa to some and I get treated very well by my children, grandchildren, and yes, great-grandchildren. Why would I come on here anymore and be disrespected by someone who doesn't really know me? No matter if we disagree let's show a little more civility, manners and Christ- likeness!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Raven

My feelings aren't hurt but I can see where you're coming from. I used to frequent this forum daily and enjoyed the time spent but not so much anymore. It has become too easy to toss off barbed quips and comments because the person addressed is not physically present. Words are written that would probably never be spoken as one Christian to another if sitting across a dining table enjoying that fellowship. Some, on here, feel they have to address every posting and do it with overbearing vim and vigor. [ You know who you are! ]
I'm likely old enough to be a dad to many of you and probably a grandpa to some and I get treated very well by my children, grandchildren, and yes, great-grandchildren. Why would I come on here anymore and be disrespected by someone who doesn't really know me? No matter if we disagree let's show a little more civility, manners and Christ- likeness!

[LOVE JESUS]

Originally Posted by Raven

My feelings aren't hurt but I can see where you're coming from. I used to frequent this forum daily and enjoyed the time spent but not so much anymore. It has become too easy to toss off barbed quips and comments because the person addressed is not physically present. Words are written that would probably never be spoken as one Christian to another if sitting across a dining table enjoying that fellowship. Some, on here, feel they have to address every posting and do it with overbearing vim and vigor. [ You know who you are! ]
I'm likely old enough to be a dad to many of you and probably a grandpa to some and I get treated very well by my children, grandchildren, and yes, great-grandchildren. Why would I come on here anymore and be disrespected by someone who doesn't really know me? No matter if we disagree let's show a little more civility, manners and Christ- likeness!

You said it better than I did. Thank you...