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Old 05-08-2017, 04:36 PM
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Re: Christian Life Center Stockton CA

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This isn't aimed at CC1 or you, but I've had this debate with people in the past . . .

Some people will criticize a church for what they believe is lack of growth (numbers), but then they will criticize a church who is growing and publishes their growth (numbers).

What is the primary reason for the church? Is it to win new souls? Or, is it to instruct, edify and send out those who are already believers?

If the primary mission of the church is to win new souls, then there should be consistent numerical growth.

If the primary mission of the church is to instruct, edify and send out those who are already believers, then it is possible a church may not show much numerical growth at all.
I would hope a church would endeavor to do both! What good is it to win people to the Lord if you don't disciple them?

To your point though I do understand there are situations where the size of a church and its growth are constrained by circumstances. For example a church in a small rural community might actually be in an area of declining and aging population. That church could not fairly be judged as not doing a good job if it did not exhbit much growth. On the other hand I don't believe there is any excuse for a church in a populous area not growing as there are plenty of people to reach.
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