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06-14-2007, 08:42 AM
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THE GIFT is perfect not the man/woman.
Eph 4:8-16
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
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06-14-2007, 08:45 AM
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There are MANY apostles and prophets among us. Because of the way the church structure works these days, most of them are called Evangelists or Pastors. Some are called teachers, and some are just referred to as preachers. But that does not negate their place.
Why is it okay to minimize, deride, malign, and otherwise ridicule the ministry?
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06-14-2007, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Brett Prince
There are MANY apostles and prophets among us. Because of the way the church structure works these days, most of them are called Evangelists or Pastors. Some are called teachers, and some are just referred to as preachers. But that does not negate their place.
Why is it okay to minimize, deride, malign, and otherwise ridicule the ministry?
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I, personally, would never minimize, deride, malign, and otherwise ridicule the ministry -- because I see the ministry being much, much bigger than any person who claims (whether truthfully or not) as being THE MINISTRY. It is God's ministry -- not mine or anyone else's and no one person (or group) is the ministry. God's ministry will continue and flourish, and still it is not dependent on any one person who is part of it.
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06-14-2007, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
THE GIFT is perfect not the man/woman.
Eph 4:8-16
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
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Thank you, Elder.
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06-15-2007, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Old Paths
THE GIFT is perfect not the man/woman.
Eph 4:8-16
8 Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.
9(Now that he ascended, what is it but that he also descended first into the lower parts of the earth?
10 He that descended is the same also that ascended up far above all heavens, that he might fill all things.)
11 And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;
12 For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ:
13 Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:
14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive;
15 But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplieth, according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, maketh increase of the body unto the edifying of itself in love.
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Aw, elder, now you went and did it: you posted scripture. Meanie!!! 
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06-14-2007, 08:55 AM
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I think what Mich mentioned earlier as one of her reasons for leaving and what Nate is also examining is a paradigm that forgets the priesthood of all saints ... all the functions are needed for the body to work well but there seems to be an inordinate focus on one or two ministries ...
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06-14-2007, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
I think what Mich mentioned earlier as one of her reasons for leaving and what Nate is also examining is a paradigm that forgets the priesthood of all saints ... all the functions are needed for the body to work well but there seems to be an inordinate focus on one or two ministries ...
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The danger is not being connected to the body by forsaking the fellowship with other believers.
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06-14-2007, 09:04 AM
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The danger is not being connected to the body by forsaking the fellowship with other believers.
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And I have stated that it is worrisome ... but it is not to say this situation is permanent ... her decision is recent ... we can encourage her to fellowship w/ a group that shares some of her doctrinal vies ... but to start implicating she's backslidden is just as worrisome.
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06-14-2007, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
And I have stated that it is worrisome ... but it is not to say this situation is permanent ... her decision is recent ... we can encourage her to fellowship w/ a group that shares some of her doctrinal vies ... but to start implicating she's backslidden is just as worrisome.
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I'm not implying she is backslidden at all. I believe she is making an unwise choice which for some could lead to a backslidden state. Hopefully it is temporary for Mich and God will lead her to a fellowship that will encourage her growth in the Lord.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
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06-14-2007, 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mizpeh
I'm not implying she is backslidden at all. I believe she is making an unwise choice which for some could lead to a backslidden state. Hopefully it is temporary for Mich and God will lead her to a fellowship that will encourage her growth in the Lord.
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Nor have I said you did make that implication ... but the implication was made in this thread ....
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