Brother Lee Stoneking's Preaching

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

True. The Twitter pics that were posted with a pic pulled off Google images of the full UN assembly, a huge crowded room, when really it was just a very few people. They did almost the same thing for LS that MSM did for Hillary rallies. But at least the MSM took a misleading photo from a certain angle, instead of copy and pasting a pic from a totally unrelated event.

Show the evidence. In other words PROVE IT.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by n david

What's misleading about it? He spoke in the General Assembly hall at the UN. There's actual video of him doing so.

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by Jason B

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

IHATEAPOSTOLIC'S.com is a terrible reference for anything.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

IHATEAPOSTOLIC'S.com is a terrible reference for anything.

Certainly that would be the opinion on this forum. There's probably a lot on that site that is subjective opinion or perspective, but not hard facts. However there are certain claims and things that LS (and others) have said, which are undeniably contradictory or outright false. Whether someone left or not doesn't matter, but are the things written/said true? In this case we'd have to say many of the things in the link are factual.

We can say that without rubber stamping the site itself. (Actually I came across this link on a Google search for the stoneking UN pic).

[n david]

Originally Posted by Jason B

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

1) Lois Gibson is a sad, bitter woman who is seething with hate towards not only the UPCI, but new birth apostolics in general.
2) What little I read of the link you provided didn't address much about Stoneking. Instead, the majority of the page centered on Jeffrey Chavis and Art Wilson's alleged inconsistent statements. Even then, it's her very biased opinion with very little to no factual evidence.
3) Get a better source than a woman in danger of damnation.

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by n david

1) Lois Gibson is a sad, bitter woman who is seething with hate towards not only the UPCI, but new birth apostolics in general.
2) What little I read of the link you provided didn't address much about Stoneking. Instead, the majority of the page centered on Jeffrey Chavis and Art Wilson's alleged inconsistent statements. Even then, it's her very biased opinion with very little to no factual evidence.
3) Get a better source than a woman in danger of damnation.

I definitely agree here 100 %, and anyone who goes in as great of lengths to downplay the necessity of the intitial evidence of speaking in tongues when receiving the Holy Ghost is either deceived or ignorant. In her case it's not the latter it's the former. Anyone downplaying or even trying to come against that doctrine that knows first hand about it, and then comes against it, and against those who believe it, is a Reprobate under the control of demonic spirits.

So anything else they would say to me would go in that category, I don't listen to the devil so I'm not going to listen to anyone under the control of one either. She goes at great lengths to tarnish people's legacies. I came across her site when Google searching for Elder Westberg messages. But the lady is capitalizing on reprobates like Jordan and Edwin Young's wrong doings, and trying to ruin Elder Nathan Dudley's and the late Elder Westberg's name, by placing them in articles about Edwing and Jordan Young. Sort of with the thing referred to by NDavid about Brother Stoneking. She uses the garbage pale of the Apostolic movement, as some leverage to bring someone else down. Anything she could say would be omitted instantly for me. Her voice just doesn't count at all in my book. That heretic site probably scares away many people from the truth, and one day she will have to answer for that is all I can say. Almost 9 times out of 10 when someone brings up crazy allegations of use being a cult I find they have ran across this very site. So if you ask me anything it says, or she says, is garbage and totally irellevant to me.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by n david

1) Lois Gibson is a sad, bitter woman who is seething with hate towards not only the UPCI, but new birth apostolics in general.
2) What little I read of the link you provided didn't address much about Stoneking. Instead, the majority of the page centered on Jeffrey Chavis and Art Wilson's alleged inconsistent statements. Even then, it's her very biased opinion with very little to no factual evidence.
3) Get a better source than a woman in danger of damnation.

You see, Jason's weblinks aren't meant for you. They are meant for people who are struggling, neophytes, and young people. Jason poison a well here and there, he has no solution for the three groups he plants seeds. Let's say they leave their church, reject their new birth, or reject the teachings of their parents. Does Jason offer them a place to go to church? Will Jason meet with their parents and help the young people make the transition? No, Jason doesn't care, Jason is just trying to justify where he is at. He isn't speaking with us, he is speaking over us to another audience. One that he hopes to liberate but literally just alienates from any form of truth. While they are already in an Apostolic Church, Jason wants to remove them and send them on a journey where he will not even be able to help.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Jason B

http://spiritualabuse.org/issues/unitednations.html

Well, well, well, lookie here.

Any doubts on Jason B's mission here?

#IHATEAPOSTOLICS, links to a website Pentecostal to Pagan. CNN is also a good source to hear about the truth on anything conservative.

[aegsm76]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Well, well, well, lookie here.

Any doubts on Jason B's mission here?

#IHATEAPOSTOLICS, links to a website Pentecostal to Pagan. CNN is also a good source to hear about the truth on anything conservative.

Is the Pentecostal to Pagan who I think it is, the one who used to be on here?

[houston]

Lol