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07-21-2021, 08:42 AM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
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Originally Posted by Bro Flame
Carlton Pearson was a televangelist that was very influential in the Florida evangelical Christian community. He was mentored by Oral Roberts, spent time at ORU, and was eventually seen as a legitimate voice because of her poise and manner.
His ministry collapsed, however, when Pearson got a "revelation" from God that hell doesn't exist. He began preaching what he called "Inclusion", the theory that everyone goes to Heaven and that there is no hell. Pearson says that people create their own hell here on Earth by the lifestyles that they live, and therefore have no worries of "weeping, wailing, or gnashing of teeth" because he cannot wrap his mind around how a loving God would send people to this place. Pearson says his "experience of God was not that way."
Pearson's teachings immediately drew controversy. He began loosing the influence he had built, and within time, he lost his Higher Dimensions Worship Center because his congregation fled. His alliance with the College of African-American Pentecostal Bishops and the Church of God in Christ dissolved, and he was eventually declared a heretic by both groups.
Anyone familiar with Pearson's "Inclusion" doctrine?
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This doesn't accurately reflect his teaching, at least at the time.
He did not indicate that there is no hell. He said hell is remedial, and for the purpose of purification unto reunion with God in heaven. How long one spends in hell is not known, but it is not eternal.
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A person who spends every day getting drunk, will ruin their health, marriage, family, and career; they will make their lives a living Hell. But that still falls far short of the chronic alcoholic being condemned by a just God to literally burn in Hell forever and ever. For others it may very well be that the punishment merited by their sins is greater than what they receive in this life. For those people perhaps there will be some kind of punishment after death, but we believe that it will be remedial and corrective rather than just punishment for punishment's sake. Exactly what that will be and how long it will last we don't know. Will Hell for some people last 10 minutes or 10 million years... we don't know. But this we do know: Hell will not last for eternity; it will not be endless... Don't sin. Be reunited with God now, rather than after you have put yourself (and those you love) through Hell.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlton_Pearson
Of course, dude has moved even farther away than just the above:
https://www.bishoppearson.com/beliefs
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07-21-2021, 01:59 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
Netflix made a movie about him, “Come Sunday.”
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07-21-2021, 02:15 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
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Netflix made a movie about him, “Come Sunday.”
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07-21-2021, 03:52 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
I wonder what he means with:
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In September 2010, Pearson again appeared on CNN with anchor Kyra Phillips, discussing the widely publicized gay rumors regarding Bishop Eddie Long. Pearson was again criticized for his inclusive thinking by many Christian fundamentalists, for stating
Until the Church—the Church, black or otherwise—confronts—not combats—confronts this issue of human sexuality and homosexuality, which is not going away. Homosexuals and homosexuality is not going away. If every gay person in our church just left or those who have an orientation or preference or an inclination, or a fantasy, if everyone left, we wouldn't have—we wouldn't have a church.
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07-21-2021, 05:42 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
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I wonder what he means with:
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Pearson changed his doctrine and lost his church. He was kicked out of his organization and congregation. Being alone he found that his inclusive doctrine was homosexual and pervert friendly. Since sinning was no longer an issue. Pearson cashed in on the whole "church going" homosexual movement. He was able to gain a church back, with another following. Look, Pearson was raised to do one thing. Sing, preach sermonettes, and collect money from his audience. He did that with Oral Roberts, and when he had his own church. He came to a place where he thought he could fly any sort of teaching over his pulpit and his people would step in line. Like so many others before him and after him, he was wrong. The saints might say "we just love you pastor" or look like they will love you for ever. But, they have time honored traditions. Once a man starts moving the furniture too many times, or changing the color of the cross on the pulpit. Sister Biddy Jean, and Mother May I, might start raising an eyebrow over those horned rimmed glasses towards the pastor. Then all of a sudden he gets voted out, or tossed out. That's what caused Pearson to find his new haven backing up homosexuals. Anyway the inclusion doctrine is just plain vanilla and Pearson is no longer really a topic of discussion. At a Christian book store you can probably pick up his book at the discount table for 10 cents.
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07-21-2021, 05:52 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
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I wonder what he means with:
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If he means the human organizations created purely by man...yeah they can make their own rules...but if he's referencing The Body of Christ called out, redeemed, set free, living in holiness and filled with His spirit then he doesnt make the rules about who is included and who is excluded
If the apostle Paul was around, his answer after efforts of correction would be to deliver them over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh. If they repented then they could be welcomed back.
Bout as old school pentecost as it gets.
It was never about being a big tent...it was about "Be ye holy for I am holy."
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07-21-2021, 05:53 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
If I recall, one of CP’s best friends came out as gay. They covered the issue of homosexuality in the movie, however the gay character in the movie was fictitious.
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07-21-2021, 05:54 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
Is that what Paul would do, really?
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07-21-2021, 08:55 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
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Is that what Paul would do, really?
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Did he not in Corinthians?
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07-21-2021, 10:12 PM
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Re: The "Inclusion" Doctrine
Does he say it is a problem but not sin, or that it is normal and must be celebrated?
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