Mark of the Beast may be only 2 1/2 years away

[diakonos]

I mean, seriously, you guys don't actually believe what you claim to believe. Your actions and lifestyle PROVE that you don't. It's just all in your head as an intellectual exercise in fantasy live action role playing. It's literally fantasy football.

Yep. Still buying houses. Getting married. Saving for retirement.

[diakonos]

Good grief

[Monterrey]

Ah yes, the 2k long toes.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Ah yes, the 2k long toes.

Go on, please explain?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Go on, please explain?

Bump for Monterrey...

[Monterrey]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Bump for Monterrey...

Sorry, haven't logged on for ever.

In dispensational teaching they teach that the toes are still growing. Dispensational teaching is that we are still in the toes. Thus 2k long toes.

I'll see if I can find an old chart, either Darby or Schofield, one of them has the image of Daniel with 2k year long toes.

[jediwill83]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sorry, haven't logged on for ever.

In dispensational teaching they teach that the toes are still growing. Dispensational teaching is that we are still in the toes. Thus 2k long toes.

I'll see if I can find an old chart, either Darby or Schofield, one of them has the image of Daniel with 2k year long toes.

Who else had Prophetic Podiatry on 2023 Bingo?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sorry, haven't logged on for ever.

In dispensational teaching they teach that the toes are still growing. Dispensational teaching is that we are still in the toes. Thus 2k long toes.

I'll see if I can find an old chart, either Darby or Schofield, one of them has the image of Daniel with 2k year long toes.

Dispies are eschatological plagiarists and copyright infringers. Those toes are historicist toes. Dispie futurists need to get their own.

[Bowas]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sorry, haven't logged on for ever.

In dispensational teaching they teach that the toes are still growing. Dispensational teaching is that we are still in the toes. Thus 2k long toes.

I'll see if I can find an old chart, either Darby or Schofield, one of them has the image of Daniel with 2k year long toes.

You are quite right. The charts with the toes have to keep being added on to, as the toes must keep getting longer and longer. To think, I used to think that chart with the toes actually was biblically based, and I even taught it for quite a while.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Monterrey

Sorry, haven't logged on for ever.

In dispensational teaching they teach that the toes are still growing. Dispensational teaching is that we are still in the toes. Thus 2k long toes.

I'll see if I can find an old chart, either Darby or Schofield, one of them has the image of Daniel with 2k year long toes.

While we are waiting for Bowas' response, I thought I would take a tangent on the subject of those "toes".

Daniel 2:31-45 KJV
Thou, O king, sawest, and behold a great image. This great image, whose brightness was excellent, stood before thee; and the form thereof was terrible. [32] This image's head was of fine gold, his breast and his arms of silver, his belly and his thighs of brass, [33] His legs of iron, his feet part of iron and part of clay. [34] Thou sawest till that a stone was cut out without hands, which smote the image upon his feet that were of iron and clay, and brake them to pieces. [35] Then was the iron, the clay, the brass, the silver, and the gold, broken to pieces together, and became like the chaff of the summer threshingfloors; and the wind carried them away, that no place was found for them: and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth. [36] This is the dream; and we will tell the interpretation thereof before the king. [37] Thou, O king, art a king of kings: for the God of heaven hath given thee a kingdom, power, and strength, and glory. [38] And wheresoever the children of men dwell, the beasts of the field and the fowls of the heaven hath he given into thine hand, and hath made thee ruler over them all. Thou art this head of gold. [39] And after thee shall arise another kingdom inferior to thee, and another third kingdom of brass, which shall bear rule over all the earth. [40] And the fourth kingdom shall be strong as iron: forasmuch as iron breaketh in pieces and subdueth all things: and as iron that breaketh all these, shall it break in pieces and bruise. [41] And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters' clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, forasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay. [42] And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. [43] And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay. [44] And in the days of these kings shall the God of heaven set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed: and the kingdom shall not be left to other people, but it shall break in pieces and consume all these kingdoms, and it shall stand for ever. [45] Forasmuch as thou sawest that the stone was cut out of the mountain without hands, and that it brake in pieces the iron, the brass, the clay, the silver, and the gold; the great God hath made known to the king what shall come to pass hereafter: and the dream is certain, and the interpretation thereof sure.

This is the prophetic dream given to Nebuchadnezzar as revealed and interpreted by Daniel. It consists of essentially two parts - the dream, and the interpretation. The dream is symbolic, the interpretation is the meaning of the symbolism.

The symbol is that of a human statue, a statue of man, with various parts made of various substances. These various parts are declared to represent or symbolize various succeeding "kingdoms" that would rule over "the whole earth". Clearly, since the first part (the head of gold) is identified as Nebuchadnezzar's own kingdom, the "whole earth" means the area we know as the "near east" and the "Mediterranean" area, ie the "ancient world". It is not a referance to "the entire planet from Arctic to Antarctic and from China to America and all points in between."

There is no statement regarding how long each power would last except for the final power, which is represented by the stone cut out without hands which grows into a great mountain to fill the earth and which is said to represent the kingdom of God which is to "never be destroyed", thus implying it would be a lasting permanent fixture throughout all time.

The relative sizes of the portions of the statue image do not seem to correspond to anything and are irrelevant. There is no mention of any significance as to their proportions. The third kingdom, that of Greece, was shorter in duration than that of either the Persians or the Romans, yet it is represented by "belly and thighs" which would normally be a relatively large part of a body compared to the other parts. So, the relative sizes of the designated body sections says nothing whatsoever about any duration that each kingdom would last. The length of time covered by each section of the statue is simply not in view. It is a statue of a man, consisting of several parts made of differing substances. We are told there is a succession in time from one part to the next, but nothing about how long each part would last.

So, making charts with giant elongated toes is simply silly, and it is equally silly to suggest that "if the toes are still around they must be really long toes". Why? Because each section represents a change in human governance, and does NOT represent any particular time span.