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Old 09-08-2024, 07:14 PM
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Re: 3.5 years or 1260 years

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Who says there is to be a mass conversion of Jews to Christ? I know that is typical dispensational (and some historicist's) eschatology, but does the Bible say this?

Great disappointment? A LOT of religious Jews believe the existence of "Israel" as a state in the middle east is an abomination and an insult to God and provokes Divine Judgment. If the state of Israel were wiped out by some pan-Arab invasion or some BRICS alliance attack half the world's Jews would simply say "See! We told you and tried to warn you! Remember Bar Kokhba?"

But besides all that, what Bible prophecy says there will be a mass conversion of Jews to Christ? The idea of a Jewish end time mass conversion is based entirely upon the supposition that modern Jews are in fact mostly Biblical Israelites, which is patently and demonstrably false.
Romans 11. I know you have addressed that before, but for me, the plain reading of the passage tells me clearly Paul is speaking that God is not done with the Israel that it is according to the flesh, because the gift is irrevocable. Paul says that Israel has a small minority that is responding to the Gospel, while the rest has been hardened. As result, the Gentiles are coming in. When the time is come, the nation of Israel according to the flesh will have a greater reception of the Gospel. Obviously, it is a generalization, the same way Paul himself also generalizes in the passage, and not every.single.living.descendant.will.be.saved, but simply that there will be a greater revival among them, powerful enough to influence the Israel as a nation.

I know there is a debate about whether "And so" in 11:26 means "and in this way" or more temporal like "and at the end". Those that believe the replacement theology want to say "and in this way" is the right translation so that "Israel" is really the minority that responded plus the Gentiles. But the context of the passage is about the destiny of the hardened Israel which constitutes the majority, and which Paul has generalized already to "all Israel". Therefore, the best translation here is "at the end," concluding the mystery question what would happen to the Israel as a whole that has been hardened.

I believe that passage in Romans 11 is clear as water that God is not done with Israel as a nation according to the flesh.
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