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Old 07-16-2007, 12:21 PM
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Well, no, the KJV is not the most literal English translation - the NASB is. Also, keep in mind that the KJV was translated for the purpose of being read aloud in churches; thus, the combination of words would not be the most accurate translation of the original texts. It should also be noted that the KJV was not translated from the earliest Greek manuscripts.
I'd have to agree ... with Chan ... just from cursory reading ... and recently examining the IT controversy ... it's apparent that the writers of the NASB do a better job in keeping the Greek texts

I'm thinking of purchasing an NASB study bible.
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Old 07-16-2007, 12:26 PM
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I'd have to agree ... with Chan ... just from cursory reading ... and recently examining the IT controversy ... it's apparent that the writers of the NASB do a better job in keeping the Greek texts

I'm thinking of purchasing an NASB study bible.
I'd love to see something to support this
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Old 07-16-2007, 04:25 PM
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I'd have to agree ... with Chan ... just from cursory reading ... and recently examining the IT controversy ... it's apparent that the writers of the NASB do a better job in keeping the Greek texts

I'm thinking of purchasing an NASB study bible.
Dan,

I have a NASB & I like it a lot.

From my limited understanding the NASB is translated from the minority texts and the MKJV is from the majority texts.
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Old 07-19-2007, 11:21 PM
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I just wanted to thank you who have taken time to post in this thread. I have really enjoyed reading your insights on this passage of Scripture and the resulting interaction between some of you.
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Old 07-22-2007, 10:36 AM
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So much confusion exist in Trinitarianism because they do not understand the pre and post incarnation.

So much confusion exist among Unitarianism because they do no understand the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, post incarnation.

So much confusion exist among Binatarians because they do not understand how many God(s) there is/are.

So much confusion exist among Oneness Pentecostals because many of us do not understand His metamorphosis and its relationship to the pre/post glorification of His person.

Jesus Christ is more than just a FORM. He is WHOLY GOD. A state that He did not claim for himself BEFORE his glorification. Jesus Christ is NOT the Son of God by genetical (D.F.doctrine) heritage, but DECLARED to be the Son of God as to OFFICE alone...and THAT for his redemptive work, which is the OFFICE of redemption (Sonship).
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Old 07-22-2007, 12:42 PM
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So much confusion exist in Trinitarianism because they do not understand the pre and post incarnation.

So much confusion exist among Unitarianism because they do no understand the person of the Lord Jesus Christ, post incarnation.

So much confusion exist among Binatarians because they do not understand how many God(s) there is/are.

So much confusion exist among Oneness Pentecostals because many of us do not understand His metamorphosis and its relationship to the pre/post glorification of His person.

Jesus Christ is more than just a FORM. He is WHOLY GOD. A state that He did not claim for himself BEFORE his glorification. Jesus Christ is NOT the Son of God by genetical (D.F.doctrine) heritage, but DECLARED to be the Son of God as to OFFICE alone...and THAT for his redemptive work, which is the OFFICE of redemption (Sonship).

I don't embrace DF, however I question the bolded statement, my question: Who is Jesus' genetic father if not God the Father?
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Old 07-22-2007, 01:36 PM
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I don't embrace DF, however I question the bolded statement, my question: Who is Jesus' genetic father if not God the Father?
A very goood question, especially if

1. You do not believe the Divine Flesh doctrine.

2. You do not beieve that he is half God and Half man.

3. You believe that Mary was a virgin.

4. You believe that in all things that he was made like unto his bretheren including the entire context of Heb 2:17.

5. You believe that according to the flesh he was made of the seed of Abraham and David too.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:04 PM
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Christ got his humanity from Mary, a descendant of David.
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Old 07-22-2007, 05:14 PM
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Christ got his humanity from Mary, a descendant of David.
Good.

He got none of His humanity from the eternal (God) Spirit? Right?
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Old 08-08-2007, 03:13 PM
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When all is said and done, I guess the main point of Paul's teaching here is the real nugget, "Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus;" (Phil.2:5) The thought just struck me that this may mean that we as the children of God need to become like Jesus and instead of reveling in who we are as "sons of God" humbly serve the sinner by identifying his need and meeting him on a very human level at the point of his need, as Jesus did.
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