IT is the Holy Ghost!

[SDG]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

That's nice Dan you have your translations you like. So how does that interact with what I said? Spirit, in the OT, is usually a feminine word. Spirit in the NT is a neuter word. If either of them were to take a corresponding pronoun, it would be feminine and neuter respectively

Once again the gender in language is irrelevant ...

I provided the example for preacher in Ecclesiastes ... as a hebrew word it is feminine ... but of course in reality the preacher we can infer is male.

The error being made here is that by assigning the gender provided by a particular language you can lose the context ... God, the Lord, Jesus, the Holy Spirit has alway been a HE .. not an it ... or she ... the KJV translators dropped the ball.

[SDG]

To quote my hero, Rush Limbaugh, WORDS MEAN THINGS.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

To quote my hero, Rush Limbaugh, WORDS MEAN THINGS.

You are right and so I say - "Shut up. You're ugly and your mother dresses you funny!"

[HeavenlyOne]

We all know what makes us a certain gender, so I won't go into details, but I have to wonder...how does what makes us male and female apply to God? I understand that God assigns Himself a gender for our benefit, but since male and female attributes are what makes us male and female, in what way does God possess those attributes? I'm speaking about His Spirit, not His flesh.

[Subdued]

Before Jesus was born, was God male? In what way(s)???

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Subdued

Before Jesus was born, was God male? In what way(s)???

I hope someone answers this from you, cause they aren't answering it from me......LOL!

[Barb]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

We all know what makes us a certain gender, so I won't go into details, but I have to wonder...how does what makes us male and female apply to God? I understand that God assigns Himself a gender for our benefit, but since male and female attributes are what makes us male and female, in what way does God possess those attributes? I'm speaking about His Spirit, not His flesh.

I was just reading in Genesis where God was speaking to Abraham and the Scripture state, "And He said unto him, I am the LORD..." (15:7)

Also "AndHesaid unto Abram..." (15:13).

The Scriptures refer to God as 'He'...

[HeavenlyOne]

Originally Posted by Barb

I was just reading in Genesis where God was speaking to Abraham and the Scripture state, "And He said unto him, I am the LORD..." (15:7)

Also "AndHesaid unto Abram..." (15:13).

The Scriptures refer to God as 'He'...

I agree, but for who's benefit? My assertion is that God assigned Himself a gender for our benefit, but doesn't physically or spiritually have a gender.

[Barb]

Originally Posted by Felicity

Lots! Read scripture.

What I said is that he may not be male in the way we normally think but He sure isn't female in His characteristics or attributes, that's for sure.

It seems that the writers of both old and new testaments perceived Him as a male with male characteristics and male attributes.

Originally Posted by Barb

I was just reading in Genesis where God was speaking to Abraham and the Scripture state, "And He said unto him, I am the LORD..." (15:7)

Also "AndHesaid unto Abram..." (15:13).

The Scriptures refer to God as 'He'...

Exactly...that's what I just posted...

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Barb

I was just reading in Genesis where God was speaking to Abraham and the Scripture state, "And He said unto him, I am the LORD..." (15:7)

Also "AndHesaid unto Abram..." (15:13).

The Scriptures refer to God as 'He'...

The scriptures also call Spirit "it"...has anyone yet figured out these pronouns are useless for determining gender of non coporeal entities?

Are there male and female angels too?