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Old 08-03-2007, 06:45 AM
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Give me an old time preacher whose message is the APOSTOLIC message of ONE God, ONE Lord, ONE faith, ONE baptism, ONE church, ONE plan of salvation until heaven falls, the bottom is knocked out of hell, demons hunt for hiding places and sinners and the hipocrites run to the altar crying for God's mercy or runs out of the meeting place into the darkness of the night...but run they must.

Give me an old time preacher man whose very marrow of his bones are aflame with the APOSTOLIC, ONE God truth until the church is established, unshakable, unmovable as a giant oak planted by the living waters.

I recall that young Nathaniel Urshan was the assistant Pastor to a Rev. Raymond G. Hoekstra in Indianpolis. Raymond G. Hoekstra was a solid ONE God preacher in those days. He preached it until his church was firmly planted on the rock, unshakable, unmovable.

Then he left for a while to manage a young celebrity preacher by the name of "Little David," leaving the church in the care of young Urshan. But, while Hoekstra was out on the road managing Little David, he began to comprise the Oneness with the Trinitarians. Finally, fully compromised, he returned to take his church back, but it was too late. The church rejected him, choosing to stay with the One God truth.

Hoekstra started another church in town but Urshan did not loose but one family to the charm of Hoekstra...though a mighty orator that he was. Urshan kept the church. Today, it is still on the SOLID ROCK. PRAISE GOD!!! I think I'll just shout a while. EXCUSE ME!

GLG SR went up to Indy to be with NAU during those trying times. If memory serves, latter rain reared it's ugly head as well?
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Old 08-03-2007, 06:49 AM
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GLG SR went up to Indy to be with NAU during those trying times. If memory serves, latter rain reared it's ugly head as well?
Yes. I recall that too.
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:38 AM
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Well there is so much more of God after the one God message. I think we are unbalanced if that is all we want to hear. Hence the reason we are so acceptable of the other errors. After one God there isn't anything taught correctly and you shower down your blessing on that preacher because he teaches the one God message. Eat the whole role.
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:53 AM
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Well there is so much more of God after the one God message. I think we are unbalanced if that is all we want to hear. Hence the reason we are so acceptable of the other errors. After one God there isn't anything taught correctly and you shower down your blessing on that preacher because he teaches the one God message. Eat the whole role.

Brother Warrior, who is denying any aspect of God here? certanily not those of us committed to the Water Spirit message.

the difference here is, we believe one must get on the road.


Jerry Falwell, never got on the road. Not one day in his life was he ever on the road but according to the council of AFF, he is sitting on the banks of the river of life eating the golden apples from the garden of hesperides!

SCJ, having not only been on the ROAD, but having committed thousand to the same road, has been condemned to the lowest level of hell for having a taillight out!
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Old 08-03-2007, 07:59 AM
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Well there is so much more of God after the one God message. I think we are unbalanced if that is all we want to hear. Hence the reason we are so acceptable of the other errors. After one God there isn't anything taught correctly and you shower down your blessing on that preacher because he teaches the one God message. Eat the whole role.
I ate the whole roll. It was sweet to my mouth but bitter to the stomach.

I once had the same attitude that you have. I had always believed the truth of One God as a matter of theological accuracy.

I always believed it from that perspective until I went to Alexandria in 1961. G. A. Mangun went totally crazy...went wild....went totally nuts....lost his ever-lovin'-mind.

I thought, "whasadealhereenneyway?" I wondered, "Can't the man find anything else from the Word of God to preach?" Little did I understand. He had much more wisdom than this tall skinny blackheaded boy understood. Then, the same fire that was in the very marrow of his bones deeply, profoundly, permanently affected me. I saw the glory of the Lord in it.

This revelation knowledge that supercedes all theological discussion, far above all wisdom and understanding of matters of mere deliberation is a world or a realm all of its own that can be little understood by the most profound deliberation.

It is the penacle of understanding. All truth flows down from this summit, though sometimes missed by the best among us, leaving us in error in some areas. But the light shines from above from who is the Light of this city of God
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Old 08-03-2007, 08:04 AM
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Well there is so much more of God after the one God message. I think we are unbalanced if that is all we want to hear. Hence the reason we are so acceptable of the other errors. After one God there isn't anything taught correctly and you shower down your blessing on that preacher because he teaches the one God message. Eat the whole role.
Warrior a man has to believe that God is ONE, and that a man must believe and teach that Jesus Name baptism is the ONLY way to fully submerse, water baptize new converts. A man must believe that the Holy Ghost in filling is evidenced by the speaking in other tongues as the Holy Ghost gives the utterance, the ability.

After that we are all on a learning curve and following Jesus as He leads us through teaching and preaching. We are to search the scriptures daily and to be good students of the word. Through walking with the Lord we should all come to the maturity that is in Christ.

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One God is who we are Jesus name is who we are and that's why the Assembly of gods call us JESUS ONLY. Our music proclaims that One GOD message and the power of that One God NAME, which is JESUS!!!

ONE ONE ONE ONE WAY TO GOD, ONE ONE ONE ONE WAY TO GOD BAPTIZED IN JESUS NAME!
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First, I am not a brother. I am a sister.

Now, I am not denying the one way message or in no way am I minimizing the one way message. I believe a great deal of Johnson's teachings were hugely flawed and filled with error. Yes, he brought those in the fold but lost many I am sure with the unecessary rules and dogmatic treatment.
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First, I am not a brother. I am a sister.

Now, I am not denying the one way message or in no way am I minimizing the one way message. I believe a great deal of Johnson's teachings were hugely flawed and filled with error. Yes, he brought those in the fold but lost many I am sure with the unecessary rules and dogmatic treatment.
Who did he lose? You bring up an interesting thought. Aren't WE as individuals to WORK OUT OUR OWN SALVATION? I said that to say this aren't we to search the scripture daily? Look WELL at our going? I think our walk is more on our backs than on the backs of others. If the minister is bringing the mail and you refuse it it's on you, and if the minister brings the mail and you don't make sure it's yours, it's still on you. If the minister is delivering the wrong mail and you didn't check it out that's your problem.

I would apologize for calling you a Brother but there is no way of knowing from your handle.

Lord bless you Sister.

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Old 08-03-2007, 10:14 AM
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Who did he lose? You bring up an interesting thought. Aren't WE as individuals to WORK OUT OUR OWN SALVATION? I said that to say this aren't we to search the scripture daily? Look WELL at our going? I think our walk is more on our backs than on the backs of others. If the minister is bringing the mail and you refuse it it's on you, and if the minister brings the mail and you don't make sure it's yours, it's still on you. If the minister is delivering the wrong mail and you didn't check it out that's your problem.

I would apologize for calling you a Brother but there is no way of knowing from your handle.

Lord bless you Sister.

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You should apologize anyway.

Yes, but the Bible says woe unto the shepherd that scatters the flock. So there is accountability for both parties.
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