Bishop SC Johnson - Page 54

warrior · #1 07-21-2009, 01:30 PM

ROMANS 1:4
4 and declared to be the Son of God with power, according to the Spirit of holiness, by the resurrection from the dead,

warrior · #2 07-21-2009, 01:33 PM

1 Corinthians 15:14 (King James Version)

14And if Christ be not risen, then is our preaching vain, and your faith is also vain.

citizen · #3 07-21-2009, 01:39 PM

Paul wrote this to the Romans after the resurrection -
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved Romans 10:9

The last book of the Bible makes this statement about Jesus after His resurrection -
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; Rev 2:18

sis_perez · #4 07-30-2009, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by citizen

Paul wrote this to the Romans after the resurrection -
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved Romans 10:9

The last book of the Bible makes this statement about Jesus after His resurrection -
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; Rev 2:18

Jesus said, in John 2:19- destroy this temple and in three days I will raise it up again. Right? Jesus said plainly right there that he would raise it.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------HOW MANY RAISED THAT BODY? OR DID JESUS lie?

sis_perez · #5 07-30-2009, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by citizen

Paul wrote this to the Romans after the resurrection -
That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised Him from the dead, thou shalt be saved Romans 10:9

The last book of the Bible makes this statement about Jesus after His resurrection -
And unto the angel of the church in Thyatira write; These things saith the Son of God, who hath his eyes like unto a flame of fire, and his feet are like fine brass; Rev 2:18

Rev:1:14-His head and his hairs were white like wool:as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire, 15: and his feet like unto fine brass..17: Fear not; I am the first and the last.

Which walks right along with what I been saying all along. People wake up!!
The scripture does not condemn itself.

Isaiah 44:6- I am the first and I am the last; and beside me there Is NO GOD!!

Now is this the son talking? I keep saying it is Just the same spirit operating. Jesus Christ is God Almighty. He is the Lord. He is the only wise God. We call HIM a lot of things including the Son of Man. But people cant see the deep things of God because it is hid in him. God is a spirit!!! He is not flesh and bood. Correct? The son was flesh and Blood. Correct?

Ilion · #6 08-07-2009, 04:41 PM

Correct, he was flesh and blood; and it is true that "flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God", according to I Corintians 15:50. However, read the entire chapter of I Corinthians 15, where Paul explains how Jesus had to ascend in the flesh (John 20:17, Ephesians 4:10) and how he will return from heaven (Acts 1:11).

KWSS1976 · #7 07-21-2009, 01:49 PM

Which brings to question why would Acts 2:38 not be quoted here apparently this audiance (sp) that Romans 10:9 is addressing is not saved....

Ilion · #8 07-23-2009, 02:26 PM

KWSS1976:

Very good point; we seem to have completely left the very basic ideas of Christianity. That scripture along with numerous others point to the fact that you MUST believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was risen from the dead (Romans 8:34 and I Corinthians 15:16-23)

I believe in our quest to denounce Trinitarians, Apostolics find themselves creating their own religious dogma, and because they do not understand the Godhead (see John 1:18 and John 16:28 and I Timothy 6:14) they are caught
opposing the Word of God and blaspheming the very Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, that they claim has saved them.

Frankly, this seems to have started because of debates with Trinitarians from years ago and neglecting to read, meditate in the Word, praying for the understanding. Without a clear understanding of the mystery (Ephesians 1:9, Colossians 2:2), as to how they are one (John 17), a person ends up as an infidel and unbeliever (John 12:39), even as the Jews then could not believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and that He rose from the dead (see 1 John 4:1-3).

sis_perez · #9 07-30-2009, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ilion

KWSS1976:

Very good point; we seem to have completely left the very basic ideas of Christianity. That scripture along with numerous others point to the fact that you MUST believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was risen from the dead (Romans 8:34 and I Corinthians 15:16-23)

I believe in our quest to denounce Trinitarians, Apostolics find themselves creating their own religious dogma, and because they do not understand the Godhead (see John 1:18 and John 16:28 and I Timothy 6:14) they are caught
opposing the Word of God and blaspheming the very Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, that they claim has saved them.

Frankly, this seems to have started because of debates with Trinitarians from years ago and neglecting to read, meditate in the Word, praying for the understanding. Without a clear understanding of the mystery (Ephesians 1:9, Colossians 2:2), as to how they are one (John 17), a person ends up as an infidel and unbeliever (John 12:39), even as the Jews then could not believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and that He rose from the dead (see 1 John 4:1-3).

Isaiah 43:11- I, even I, am the Lord, and beside me there is no saviour. IS THIS THE SON TALKING here , which surly was the one who died to redeem us.

sis_perez · #10 07-30-2009, 04:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilion

KWSS1976:

Very good point; we seem to have completely left the very basic ideas of Christianity. That scripture along with numerous others point to the fact that you MUST believe that Jesus Christ, the Son of God, was risen from the dead (Romans 8:34 and I Corinthians 15:16-23)

I believe in our quest to denounce Trinitarians, Apostolics find themselves creating their own religious dogma, and because they do not understand the Godhead (see John 1:18 and John 16:28 and I Timothy 6:14) they are caught
opposing the Word of God and blaspheming the very Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ, that they claim has saved them.

Frankly, this seems to have started because of debates with Trinitarians from years ago and neglecting to read, meditate in the Word, praying for the understanding. Without a clear understanding of the mystery (Ephesians 1:9, Colossians 2:2), as to how they are one (John 17), a person ends up as an infidel and unbeliever (John 12:39), even as the Jews then could not believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God and that He rose from the dead (see 1 John 4:1-3).

He was the son, this is true. But he died. But you cant see that God glorified that body? That was not flesh and blood that went back to heaven. We all know the son was flesh and blood. The son is Just another record of what he was. You cant seem to accept the fact of the same one spirit operating.
Jesus Christ is God Almighty, the everlasting father.