From MOW's own mouth

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Please dont miss the reason why..... that part is important.

Yes...

I have gone on record stating that when truth is stifled on this forum, in any manner, I'm gone.

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Please dont miss the reason why..... that part is important.

So....even though my post was deleted and posed as "wrong", I was right.
Once again, spirits of division have trumped unity!
Its life the "Affirmation Statement" all over again.
MOW you are wrong!!! WE CAN CO-EXSIST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We must...for only then would we TRULY be APOSTOLIC!

No, owner, admin, moderator or poster has the corner market on the true definition of "Apostolic". THAT is the bottom line!

I know all three of you owners that are UPCI Pastors...you are good guys.

BUT...MOW is a wonderful Christian man. I have known him for over 20 years and have preached in his pulpit.
HE was a "casualty" of the "Affirmation Statement" and I find it sad, and the thought of him being a "casualty" of this forum makes me feel literally sick to my stomach.
I

I think this would be a PERECT time for all to sit back and ask ourselves...what is our direction and our purpose here. Is it dialogue among friends, ministerial collegues, and other fellow Christian Bro and Sisters or is it about trying to force into a mold of conformity.

The underlying opinion of mine is this....MOW has no complaints of how he was treated....and he was clear about how respectful folks have been to him.

BUT I sense hurt in him that he would have to make the choice to leave his forum family......
It is sad that ten years later he is forced to make the same decision.


WHEN WILL WE LEARN!!!

Gotta go.....this really hurts and totally, IMO displeases the very throne of Grace.

NLYP

[COOPER]

Originally Posted by NLYP

So....even though my post was deleted and posed as "wrong", I was right.
Once again, spirits of division have trumped unity!

WHEN WILL WE LEARN!!!

Gotta go.....this really hurts and totally, IMO displeases the very throne of Grace.

NLYP

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by NLYP

It is sad that ten years later he is forced to make the same decision.

MOW was not forced to do anything; any decision he has made has been by his own accord.... just as rgcraig had previously stated....

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by Malvaro

MOW was not forced to do anything; any decision he has made has been by his own accord.... just as rgcraig had previously stated....

Malvaro, I appreciate you. I think you are a great guy. i also think you and Renda, who I have utmost respect for, are spinning this.

I have a great deal of respect for MOW. I appreciate his integrity.

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Malvaro, I appreciate you. I think you are a great guy. i also think you and Renda, who I have utmost respect for, are spinning this.

I have a great deal of respect for MOW. I appreciate his integrity.

I'm not spinning anything. MOW has stated the absolute truth.

It's an issue that we've been working on in the admin area to try and get some peace about it all.

Some of us have been very frustrated, but this forum is an awesome place and like NLYP has said I believe we can work things out if we all try.

Are we learning in the process, you betcha!

Have we got answers for everything, nope, not yet.

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Malvaro, I appreciate you. I think you are a great guy. i also think you and Renda, who I have utmost respect for, are spinning this.

I have a great deal of respect for MOW. I appreciate his integrity.

a) "great guy" hehehehe.... that was worth 2 brownie points....
that actually made me chuckle a bit....

b) "spinning" is a pretty strong statement.... what we've said is truth;
what's there to spin???

rgcraig.... I think can spin better than you can....

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Malvaro

MOW was not forced to do anything; any decision he has made has been by his own accord.... just as rgcraig had previously stated....

You misunderstand the statement...
In fact he was "forced".
He was forced by his good conscience.
I did not insinuate otherwise.

[Amos]

Originally Posted by NLYP

You misunderstand the statement...
In fact he was "forced".
He was forced by his good conscience.
I did not insinuate otherwise.

Was it conscience or the choice to remove himself from a stressful situation?

If it was a matter of conscience, that would make it a right/wrong issue, and that doesn't seem to be what he is saying.

No sense in dramatizing this more than it needs to be.

[Malvaro]

Originally Posted by NLYP

You misunderstand the statement...
In fact he was "forced".
He was forced by his good conscience.
I did not insinuate otherwise.

again I say he was not forced to do anything.... rather his "choice"
was based on his opinions/viewpoints formed through the years....

He still would be welcome back into Admin with open arms anytime....